Pest Free NZ - radio national

**BoristheBiter** · 8th August 2012, 12:06

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

1080 is the only effcient way to control possums and other varmin in NZ end of story. Especially in extremely hilly terrain which is near impossible to bait manually. I can't think of another country in the world where possums bread like they do here. You only have to sit in suburbia anywhere in Wellington to see the positive effect it's had on the native bird life etc. Anyone that says otherwise is talking out their arse.

No, it is the cheapest.

The most effective is ground baiting but, as you have pointed out, we have a very hilly land so ground baiting is very time consuming.

I don't know if you have ever seen the effects of 1080 on an animal but I have and it is not a pretty site.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 8th August 2012, 12:20

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

No, it is the cheapest.

The most effective is ground baiting but, as you have pointed out, we have a very hilly land so ground baiting is very time consuming.

I don't know if you have ever seen the effects of 1080 on an animal but I have and it is not a pretty site.

Some land so steep it's also near impossible.

Maybe so. But the effects of not doing it are more harmfull to NZ than doing it.

**SMOKEU** · 8th August 2012, 12:37

Originally Posted by gammaguy

wont happen

government are selling the trains to china and the rails to the japanese

those cunts cant agree on anything

And I was so close to coming up with the final solution.

**avgas** · 8th August 2012, 12:41

Originally Posted by gammaguy

wont happen
government are selling the trains to china and the rails to the japanese
those cunts cant agree on anything

Sounds similar to a certain ANZAC agreement.

**avgas** · 8th August 2012, 12:45

I am not a fan of poisons. They are poisonous. I think we should make all the unemployed have to go shoot rodents. They get paid per rodent.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 8th August 2012, 12:50

Originally Posted by avgas

I am not a fan of poisons. They are poisonous. I think we should make all the unemployed have to go shoot rodents. They get paid per rodent.

I'd be all for shooting them instead too. But like I say...far too much of the land they occupy is too steep. It ain't gonna happen. And giving the unemployed firearms maye be far worse than using 1080!

**BoristheBiter** · 8th August 2012, 13:47

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Some land so steep it's also near impossible.

Maybe so. But the effects of not doing it are more harmfull to NZ than doing it.

Never said not to do it, just use less harmful poison or at least only get the target species.

there is nothing you can say that would make me change my mind in the use of 1080.
It's like walking into a shopping mall blindfolded and just opening up with a machine gun.

It can be done it just costs more, if they can heli drop 1080 then can heli drop people and bait stations.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 8th August 2012, 13:52

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

Never said not to do it, just use less harmful poison or at least only get the target species.

there is nothing you can say that would make me change my mind in the use of 1080.
It's like walking into a shopping mall blindfolded and just opening up with a machine gun.

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I think you'll find that they're now not getting nearly as many other things as a by kill as they used to by using different pellets etc. What species can you say is in decline because of the use of 1080? Apart from possums, Stoats, Rats and Ferrets of course.

**duckonin** · 8th August 2012, 13:54

Originally Posted by avgas

I am not a fan of poisons. They are poisonous. I think we should make all the unemployed have to go shoot rodents. They get paid per rodent.

Now think that one through properly. Give guns to the unemployed

!!! Ha ah Yeah right .

**BoristheBiter** · 8th August 2012, 14:06

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

I think you'll find that they're now not getting nearly as many other things as a by kill as they used to by using different pellets etc. What species can you say is in decline because of the use of 1080? Apart from possums, Stoats, Rats and Ferrets of course.

Don't you believe it.
They started used deer repellent after huge lobbying by the NZDA and others.
Try going for a walk after they have dropped 1080, they are easy to find as there is no sound, it is dead it kills everything.

The possum dies, bugs clean up the remains, birds and lizards eat the bugs, they die of 1080.
Once it gets into the food chain it will kill anything that it touches.

And it isn't that effective for catching possums.

**duckonin** · 8th August 2012, 14:16

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

I think you'll find that they're now not getting nearly as many other things as a by kill as they used to by using different pellets etc. What species can you say is in decline because of the use of 1080? Apart from possums, Stoats, Rats and Ferrets of course.

For a person who has sold motorbikes most of their life you are a proper little know all, are you not ?..

In decline in areas 1080 used. 'Every animal including birds and kiwis..That is all animals. Go into an area where '1080 pollard baits' has been used for the following 9 months or so there will be an awful silence. 'NO BIRD LIFE NOTHING AT ALL.' To say otherwise 'you' would of be brain washed by the bureaucracy, the same as the rest of those who do not know the real deal.

Your other point , "now not getting nearly as many other things as a by kill is correct" . Reason there is nothing left.

Another point you have made is that our topography does not allow ground control throughout the entire country is correct.

Just a pity we have not developed another form of pest control that is effective long term. Scentists tried to develop a contraception prill, but what good would that do ?

**duckonin** · 8th August 2012, 14:20

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

Don't you believe it.
They started used deer repellent after huge lobbying by the NZDA and others.
Try going for a walk after they have dropped 1080, they are easy to find as there is no sound, it is dead it kills everything.

The possum dies, bugs clean up the remains, birds and lizards eat the bugs, they die of 1080.
Once it gets into the food chain it will kill anything that it touches.

And it isn't that effective for catching possums.

Sorry Boris, 1080 does not 'catch possums' it 'kills' them only.. You post tells me you are onto it .

**Crasherfromwayback** · 8th August 2012, 14:24

Originally Posted by duckonin

For a person who has sold motorbikes most of their life you are a proper little know all, are you not ?..

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So sorry your Royal Highness. Didn't realise that because I sell bikes it was illegal to have opinions on anything else. Now tell us what you do for a living. And if it's not anything to do with 1080, guess you can shut the fuck up too eh? And if you don't sell motorcycles...best you not say anything 'bout them either eh? What a world that'd be eh? Lets all only talk about what we do for a living!!! What an awesome idea.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 8th August 2012, 14:30

Originally Posted by duckonin

For a person who has sold motorbikes most of their life you are a proper little know all, are you not ?..

In decline in areas 1080 used. 'Every animal including birds and kiwis..That is all animals. Go into an area where '1080 pollard baits' has been used for the following 9 months or so there will be an awful silence. 'NO BIRD LIFE NOTHING AT ALL.' To say otherwise 'you' would of be brain washed by the bureaucracy, the same as the rest of those who do not know the real deal.

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Seeing as I'm nothing but a motorcycle selling little know all...could you please explain to me why NZ Forrest and Bird support the use of 1080 if it kills all the wee birdies like you claim?