It's time to get a bike!

[The_Duke]

read the thread.

Oh ok..... you mean this one, right?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ogression+noob

[ducatilover]

Oh ok..... you mean this one, right?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ogression+noob

No he means the part in this thread where the OP states they're interested in going to the race track, you one eyed twit

[The_Duke]

No he means the part in this thread where the OP states they're interested in going to the race track, you one eyed twit

I realise that, champ. Guess I needed a tongue-in-cheek font or something.

I'd be more interested in seeing zique walk before he can run, to be honest. The track's not going anywhere, so let's help him develop some basic skills first.
Grantman got way, way ahead of himself and got burned for it. I'm also wanting the OP to realise that ending up in a hospital bed (or worse...) is a reality if you start treating the road like your personal racetrack.... Grantman's tale is a sober warning to ANY newbie.

If that makes me one-eyed, no worries... I'll get me patch.

....It's got "Ride to Survive" on it.

[Lelitu]

in shopping for a bike, there's the statistics to consider
as well as the feel when you're actually riding the thing.

I wouldn't buy a bike without having at least sat on it
and ideally taken it for a test ride.

went in to get my first bike with a list of 4 bikes to have a look at.

top of the list was a ninja.
sat on it for 5 minutes and realised it was simply too cramped and would never do.

wound up getting the hyosung gt 250(bottom of the list). physically a much bigger bike, it just feels more comfortable
to ride, and has more than enough power for a learner.

[ducatilover]

I realise that, champ. Guess I needed a tongue-in-cheek font or something.

I'd be more interested in seeing zique walk before he can run, to be honest. The track's not going anywhere, so let's help him develop some basic skills first.
Grantman got way, way ahead of himself and got burned for it. I'm also wanting the OP to realise that ending up in a hospital bed (or worse...) is a reality if you start treating the road like your personal racetrack.... Grantman's tale is a sober warning to ANY newbie.

If that makes me one-eyed, no worries... I'll get me patch.

....It's got "Ride to Survive" on it.

We are in need of a sarcasm font
I think he was looking at going to the track "further down the road". But you're certainly right

[zique]

I read that thread some days ago and wow! Grantman is so lucky he is alive! Which is why a CBR is not a good idea for me as I'd be seriously tempted to test the limits of that bike.

[nodrog:Me]

Im sure this place fills up with more retards every day.

[newbie87]

Hi everyone

I am new to this site and also new to riding in nz . I just got my learners and looking for a bike . I have my eyes on kawasaki 400r . As this thread is about learner riders , i thought someone might help me to decide if this is the right choice or not.

Thanks

[GrayWolf]

Hi everyone

I am new to this site and also new to riding in nz . I just got my learners and looking for a bike . I have my eyes on kawasaki 400r . As this thread is about learner riders , i thought someone might help me to decide if this is the right choice or not.

Thanks

650R: 71bhp, 49lb/ft, 204kg/449.5lbs, .35bhp:kg, .24lb/ft:kg
400R: 42bhp, 27lb/ft, 203kg/447.5lbs, .20bhp:kg, .13lb/ft:kg
250R: 30.5bhp, 16lb/ft, 170kg/375lbs, .18bhp:kg, .09lb.ft:kg

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/20...ke-perfection/

from a couple of reviews I just had a read of, if it fits you for style and comfort? Cant see any reason to not go for it...

[Glowerss]

Hi everyone

I am new to this site and also new to riding in nz . I just got my learners and looking for a bike . I have my eyes on kawasaki 400r . As this thread is about learner riders , i thought someone might help me to decide if this is the right choice or not.

Thanks

If you're willing to waste a lot of dosh on one of those, go for it mate. But to be completely honest, you can find a much cheaper, much LIGHTER alternative to a bike that isn't going to hammer you in the wallet. The depreciation on the ninja 400 alone is going to be catastrophic I would think.

Having just started biking not too long ago, I would advise against such a heavy ass bike though. Low speed work and standing still and that sucker is going to be like trying to manhandle a hippo to somebody not used to biking. I spent 2 months on a Scoprio, which is like 130kg completely full of fluids before buying my 400 which is 174 empty. The 400 took weeks to get used to how heavy the fucker was.

The ninja will weigh about the same. While it isn't heavy in the grand scheme of things, it's a lot heavier then most first bikes are. Well over 30kg on the 250 ninja, and the 250 ninja is on the heavy side of beginner bikes as well.

Pick up something like a gn250 or a scorpio would still be my advice. You can use one of those for 2-3 months to get the hang of things and then flick em off on trademe without losing a cent. I sold my scorpio for more then I bought it for. You should have a better idea of what you want in a bike by then anyway.

My 2 cents anyway.

[GrayWolf]

If you're willing to waste a lot of dosh on one of those, go for it mate. But to be completely honest, you can find a much cheaper, much LIGHTER alternative to a bike that isn't going to hammer you in the wallet. The depreciation on the ninja 400 alone is going to be catastrophic I would think.

Having just started biking not too long ago, I would advise against such a heavy ass bike though. Low speed work and standing still and that sucker is going to be like trying to manhandle a hippo to somebody not used to biking. I spent 2 months on a Scoprio, which is like 130kg completely full of fluids before buying my 400 which is 174 empty. The 400 took weeks to get used to how heavy the fucker was.

The ninja will weigh about the same. While it isn't heavy in the grand scheme of things, it's a lot heavier then most first bikes are. Well over 30kg on the 250 ninja, and the 250 ninja is on the heavy side of beginner bikes as well.

Pick up something like a gn250 or a scorpio would still be my advice. You can use one of those for 2-3 months to get the hang of things and then flick em off on trademe without losing a cent. I sold my scorpio for more then I bought it for. You should have a better idea of what you want in a bike by then anyway.

My 2 cents anyway.

I certainly wont argue the cost/depreciation of a 400r, but the weight thing? It's nothing new, our old RD250's etc were all around the 160kilo mark.... and they are all learner legal, we coped with the size and weight.

Model: Yamaha RD 250
Year: 1979
Category: Sport
Rating: 61.7 out of 100. Show full rating and compare with other bikes
Engine and transmission
Displacement: 247.00 ccm (15.07 cubic inches)
Engine type: Twin, two-stroke
Power: 27.00 HP (19.7 kW)) @ 7200 RPM
Top speed: 145.0 km/h (90.1 mph)
Compression: 6.7:1
Bore x stroke: 54.0 x 54.0 mm (2.1 x 2.1 inches)
Fuel control: Membrane
Cooling system: Air
Gearbox: 6-speed
Transmission type,
final drive: Chain
Chassis, suspension, brakes and wheels
Front tyre dimensions: 3.00-18
Rear tyre dimensions: 3.50-18
Front brakes: Single disc
Rear brakes: Single disc
Physical measures and capacities
Weight incl. oil, gas, etc: 158.0 kg (348.3 pounds)
Fuel capacity: 16.50 litres (4.36 gallons)

[newbie87]

Thanks GrayWolf and Glowerss for your replies , will wait until october to buy it but till then i will keep searching .......

Thanks

[Madness]

Im sure this place fills up with more retards every day.

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[GrayWolf]

Thanks GrayWolf and Glowerss for your replies , will wait until october to buy it but till then i will keep searching .......

Thanks

As an aside, there is another possibility.. I recently saw an older (1980's) Moto Guzzi 650 Lario... now I know these are only 50odd BHP.... I wonder if those or even the old 500 Guzzi/Ducati V's would be eligble??

[ducatilover]

As an aside, there is another possibility.. I recently saw an older (1980's) Moto Guzzi 650 Lario... now I know these are only 50odd BHP.... I wonder if those or even the old 500 Guzzi/Ducati V's would be eligble??

One would expect/hope so.
The Duke 400SS/monster should be allowed, possibly the 600 on a stretch (they're bloody gutless)
Both would be awesome learner bikes