You're nuthin
1) Learning isn't competing. The analogy is a stupid one.Originally Posted by FROSTY
2) That notwithstanding, Fat Albert vs Usain bolt...not much point in talkin up Fat Albert (he might be fat but it doesn't mean he's dumb)
3) You obviously think his teacher's opinion is more influential than yours. I tend to think she has a better idea of his academic capacity...and perhaps level of interest in school
4) Your child's life is his life - not an extension of yours
Easy Biker
Simple, the old man (you) and old lady need to ask their kid is he doing his best? Is he getting to where he is aiming? If not why not? Does he need to try harder and have a better attitude towards school? What's holding him back?
There is a damn good chance the teacher can't change this kid if he doesn't want to be changed. The teacher sure as hell can't raise his IQ, though I hear dope can lower it forever.
If the kid sees the light, he will kick arse to prove the teacher wrong because she has laid down a challenge really as to what level she sees him at. If he doesn't agree with her it is in his hands to make the difference. Take responsibility for his own actions. How often do we hear that, but it is the only answer?
Someone mentioned losers in youth gangs - well its all in the mind - they see themselves as the winners, smarter and tougher than the rest, rebellious, cool etc not the losers. Its a mind game, and clearly your boy has taken the easy route at the moment and that's how the teacher sees him.
Remember the saying "if you say you can, or you say you can't, you are right" that's because the individual is the main driver of their personal outcomes. No use blaming it on someone else like a teacher.
In summary - kick his fricken arse and tell him to pull finger so he aint a loser.
Cheers
Merv
Loud and Uncouth
Sadly so true Merv - too many only look inward at their 'cool' mates - they don' realise that there's a great big world out there, most of which doesn't even realise these 'cool' kids exist.
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gee wizzz
Hey I agree with about all you posted merv. My view always is "the buck stops here" I just hate someone with influence over how a kid thinks is actively encouraging them to accept being average or even below average.
The way I see it -if enough people tell you that you are stupid or ugly etc eventually you start to believe it. It takes towering self confidence not to let it get to you.
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You're nuthin
Except she told you he was average...and maybe she's right
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How do you account for those who are exceptional students and have exceptional careers ahead of them in any field they choose, yet decide that they'd rather have fun instead? Was just watchin those twats on Close Up deciding what skills the kids of today need... too many subjects at school etc... stunning that they come to these realisations about 20 years too late and will probably still do nothing about it. What teachers say and how things turn out seldom matter. One of my best mates was a dumb as 2 short planks, academia wise, but he had to have been one of the most talented joiners I've ever seen. Brains ain't everything by a long way. Whilst I agree with try to do your best, no kid should be pushed into anything under the guise of achieving or losing.
It ain't a fuckin competition, it's Education!
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As a parent, and as a single parent since my kids were quite young I can understand what you are trying to say. My oldest although quite intelligent was not interested in sitting in classrooms, or doing anything Academic at all. This caused more than a few disagreements between us as like most parents I wanted only the best for him. He has got himself a job in a trade that he really enjoys, and is doing well. is he a Loser, or a winner? He is doing a job he enjoys, contributing to society and doesn't have a huge student loan to pay off for something that he doesn't want to do. On the other Hand my Daughter who works really hard to pass exams and unit standards is planning on going to Uni to get a degree to follow a career path she has had her heart set on since she was quite young. The difference between them isn't one of intelligence, but of having the goal and knowing where they want to go.
During teen years it seems that some kids can make those goals and work towards them, and others can't.
What you need to try to do is find a reason for Baby Bikie to want to excel to the best of his ability in the Academic classroom. Then the rest well become easy.
you need to create the self motivation/desire, and determination to reach Academic Goals. Does he have a Dream Job/ career he wants to follow? What sort of Qualifications are needed?
Then look at paying for extra tuition in subjects where he needs the extra support if you can.
To Quote Calvin Coolidge
"Nothing in the world can take the
place of persistence.
Talent will not; nothing is more
common than unsuccessful men with
Talent. Genius will not; unrewarded
genius is almost a proverb.
Education will not; the world is
full of educated derelicts.
Persistence and determination
alone are omnipotent.
My own goal at the moment is work out how to pay for 4 years of uni, as I don't believe it is fair to saddle young people with $80 K debt to get a education.
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That is one very good point that goes unnoticed.
Schools vigorously push the academic pathway and are blinkered to other options. Perhaps Frosty's lad is more interested in more "hands-on" activities and an educational pathway that leads on to a trade profession or career?
"Academics" are a bit blinkered once they have been through the indoctrination machine.
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I hear ya frosty.
Just for me, it is the "aim to be the best in whatever you do is all i ask for" part that I would disagree with.
To make a ridiculous example for my point.
I want a piece of toast. Do I spend the time and effort to make sure the butter is perfectly spread, the dead right thickness. Then apply the vegemite, not too much, not too little. Don't fold it over cause vegemite toast is best eaten as an open sandwich. Don't start too soon or the toast is too hot and the butter melts to much.. and so on and so forth.
Course I don't, I just make myself a piece of toast with vegemite on it.
Sometimes you just want the piece of toast and that is fine. Other times you might want the best darn piece of toast the world has ever seen.
One of the skills is picking which time is which.
SH1 rider
I really don't know what you mean. Look how they have improved the manual classes, no longer do you do wood work, metal work, sewing and cooking but now you get the new improved material technology. No longer do you have to struggle to be able to dress a piece of wood and make a useful magazine rack but now you get to design, make and market it. More frigging marketing wallies and no one that can build quality.
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I think you know what I mean...
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Cyborg Biker
Remember at school they are now taught on the play field, that there are no winners or loosers... They can't play bullrush, climb trees (and fall out of trees) not allow to have "best" friends all friends are equal... and now a school in Aussie is saying no to cart wheels and hand stands...
basically answers your question there really...
gee wizzz
Sorry guys I'll rephrase a little. The AIM is a pass in NCEA level 1. The main part of this Im concerned with is passes in Maths and english.
Correct me if Im wrong but NCEA level 1 maths is the maths you need on a day to day basis regardless of the type of work you do. be it builder,cabinetmaker,sparkie etc.
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