Where have all the Post Classic race bikes gone?

[Duke girl]

The club no longer caters for a large number of PC riders who were just happy to be there for the social event as field fillers. There is a need for a PC Clubmans class or go back to Tim's way of grades classes A,B,C and D if required.

+1 Graded classes would make closer Racing and be exciting for the Spectators to watch.

[codgyoleracer]

Eh? Given:
1) the NZPCRA like all clubs is always looking for members
2) The NZPCRA only run one event per year
3) are generally reliant on other clubs running classes at their meetings
4) has not changed anything with regards to the direction which has excluded the "field fillers"

I think you comment is nugatory and without factual basis. Care to explain what you are actually trying to say?

I think you are better served by recognising that people come and go in classes or race with they can. Low investment(I buy a cheap bike), low self requirement to make use of said investment.

Factual basis ?, This is KB Al !!!!!!!!!! :-) , Dontcha know we all make it up as we go along on here, but like watchin you ride around a racetrack :-)..............

[Skunk]

All fair points but I was referring to F3's allergy to Motards. I should have been more specific but it was a throw away comment. No offence intended.

None taken. I'm always happy to explain why VMCC do things as we do.

[Skunk]

+1 Graded classes would make closer Racing and be exciting for the Spectators to watch.

Sorry Skip but I disagree. I look at Graded (Bracket) racing this way:
Say you have a rider who is very slow in the corners but on a litre bike running in the same class as a 250cc who maintains corner speed but has nothing left for the straights. (The situation they had at the test day on Friday)
That cannot be safe as these two bikes are running at vastly different speeds all over the track but have equal lap times. And a litre bike with an unskilled rider on track with slower bikes is the worst thing I can imagine.

I had this happen to me at a track day - and I'm not fast on my 350... but I did manage to pass and leave behind a Gixxer 1000.

[Skunk]

Factual basis ?, This is KB Al !!!!!!!!!! :-) , Dontcha know we all make it up as we go along on here, but like watchin you ride around a racetrack :-)..............

You might. But you're only a part timer... so no one's listening.

[Clivoris]

It's a bloody mystery to me. As Skunk stated, VMCC offered pre 82 as a seperate class and simply didn't get the numbers. Same with Motards. Same with Carbies class. I'm constantly tempted to get into pre-89 F3. Somebody give me some money. Its absence is what stops me.

[Billy]

Sorry Skip but I disagree. I look at Graded (Bracket) racing this way:
Say you have a rider who is very slow in the corners but on a litre bike running in the same class as a 250cc who maintains corner speed but has nothing left for the straights. (The situation they had at the test day on Friday)
That cannot be safe as these two bikes are running at vastly different speeds all over the track but have equal lap times. And a litre bike with an unskilled rider on track with slower bikes is the worst thing I can imagine.

I had this happen to me at a track day - and I'm not fast on my 350... but I did manage to pass and leave behind a Gixxer 1000.

Yip and I can get you off the hook there Skunk,

As long as I'm roadrace commissioner,There will be NO bracket racing for the exact reasons you state.

[RobGassit]

Yip and I can get you off the hook there Skunk,

As long as I'm roadrace commissioner,There will be NO bracket racing for the exact reasons you state.

Sorry Skippy, looks like even Billy won't let you run F1 on your two fiddy.

[macclan]

Why not run it? A well ridden LC350 is a bleedin weapon and would piss all over 99% of the pre89 400's and 90% of the 600's. You'll find someone to have a dice with for sure. Maybe a few other pre82 guys will also take heed.

ive been racing them for ever and at tracks like taupo where performance isnt as important i agree ive won pre 89 races and even pushed the big bangers but at any track with drag strips straights thats a different thing
i know that the class is dropping in numbers and has been for a few years now its a shame
but for me i want to race to try and win in a class not ride around and make numbers up
thats why im moving over to f3 this summer and just ride the lc at the odd event up north where feilds are larger
i think that numbers will never return

[Robert Taylor]

It's a bloody mystery to me. As Skunk stated, VMCC offered pre 82 as a seperate class and simply didn't get the numbers. Same with Motards. Same with Carbies class. I'm constantly tempted to get into pre-89 F3. Somebody give me some money. Its absence is what stops me.

Its all Glenn Williams fault. Fast vrider turns up on fast bike with well sorted Swedish suspenders. Goalposts moved.

[scracha]

Its all Glenn Williams fault. Fast vrider turns up on fast bike with well sorted Swedish suspenders. Goalposts moved.

Are YSS swedish?

[malcy25]

Dontcha know we all make it up as we go along on here, but like watchin you ride around a racetrack :-)..............

sssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, so I slip off once in a blue moon!

[suzuki21]

Steve.

The only issue I recall was your carbs way back when 2001? I'm not sure about the rest of the bullshit you heaped with but I thought you done a good job.

I'd get the thing out again and ride. There's nothing in the rule book that says you can't build a GS1000R / XR69 and then put a GSX motor in it. In fact, I've seen quite a few these days and if all the bits otherwise fit the age cut off or replication rule, no one has a point to argue!

Ps: I'm an Aucklander. We're not all wankers.

I used flatslides at Manfield and borrowed my mates CR's when heading north as it was a fair complaint. The other stuff was just picky stuff from little bitches. Oh - not all Aucklanders are wankers.

[codgyoleracer]

Its all Glenn Williams fault. Fast vrider turns up on fast bike with well sorted Swedish suspenders. Goalposts moved.

Robert, - How to win friends and influence people in the NZ race paddock:

1) Turn up in flash car & Trailer
2) Roll out a limited edition bike
3) Prance about the pits lookin like you know what your doin
4) Smile and talk to everyone
5) Do well in a few races
6) Repeat the above for 20 Years or so


I just wish i could slip in the dolly brollies there somwhere on that list, but i was hit with the ugly stick many years ago............

GW

[Robert Taylor]

Are YSS swedish?

I think you need to look again at what is fitted to Glenns Bimota