What does KB think i should do to this prick?

[avgas]

But that's the thing, it wasn't a race.

But what you are saying is next time on the track the OP should take out the rider as revenge?

Or not ride near lunatics.
If you can't swim with the sharks - stay out of the fucking ocean.

[BoristheBiter]

Or not ride near lunatics.
If you can't swim with the sharks - stay out of the fucking ocean.

what sort of dumb analogy is that?
It should say if you don't want to be bitten by sharks.

Watlaw is condoning taking someone out on the track for revenge so people will come and watch.

[avgas]

what sort of dumb analogy is that?
It should say if you don't want to be bitten by sharks.

Watlaw is condoning taking someone out on the track for revenge so people will come and watch.

Nope. Y'see no one likes being bitten by sharks. But only a stupid idiot would put themselves "IN HARMS WAY" thinking that the shark is never going to bite.

Riding on a track with a whole lot of other muppets, all going in the same direction is a damn site easier than doing the same on a bi-directional road.........but if you can't handle the fact that may be your bike might be hurt there.....then perhaps riding one isn't such a wise idea.

I mean if he lowsided would he have sued the ground, the tarseal, the contractor.............the fact another bike hit him, while he rode with them, by his own choice......
Lets just keep it polite and state he could have left that track, and pulled over to the side at any point in time.
He failed to do so, and shit happened.

What was he in control of? Could he have changed the situation?

[DEATH_INC.]

I'm gonna agree with avgas . Riding on the track is a risk. The other guy can't have been being that dangerous or he'd have been pulled for it. I've crashed on the track because of others, as have plenty of others on here. Shit happens.
It'll be a sad day for trackdays if this guy wins in court.

[SVboy]

FFS-YOU chose to go on track-what did you think-that the organisors would create a risk profile on each participant or that marshals would throw cotton wool under your bike in the case that something went wrong. If your insurance pays out for you-great-lucky you, but for them to persue a grevience thru the courts sucks. The other guy may have made a mistake in your opinion-sad for him and you, but YOU had the responsibility to think thru the possible consequences of being on a RACE track. It is part of life that people fall off more on track because they push their personal boundaries more-RACE track-not security blanket. So fuck off-take your insurance check-thank your god you are ok, sell any remaining M/C gear you have and get into chess or soduku or watching americas got talent, but stay away from dangerous places if you cant handle the consequences...

[BoristheBiter]

Nope. Y'see no one likes being bitten by sharks. But only a stupid idiot would put themselves "IN HARMS WAY" thinking that the shark is never going to bite.

Riding on a track with a whole lot of other muppets, all going in the same direction is a damn site easier than doing the same on a bi-directional road.........but if you can't handle the fact that may be your bike might be hurt there.....then perhaps riding one isn't such a wise idea.

I mean if he lowsided would he have sued the ground, the tarseal, the contractor.............the fact another bike hit him, while he rode with them, by his own choice......
Lets just keep it polite and state he could have left that track, and pulled over to the side at any point in time.
He failed to do so, and shit happened.

What was he in control of? Could he have changed the situation?

You are misinterpreting what I was meaning.

I was replying to a post by watlaw in which he seems to think that it is all fine and dandy to take someone out and that is why people come to watch.

yes riding on a track can be dangerous.
Yes you can have accidents.
Yes there are riders that think they have more skill than they do.

This was a rider training day, not a race and in such you expect a little more courtesy.

Me personally, I would have given the other rider a piece of my mind then left it in the hands of the insurance company.
And posting it up on KB "total fail".

[BoristheBiter]

I'm gonna agree with avgas . Riding on the track is a risk. The other guy can't have been being that dangerous or he'd have been pulled for it. I've crashed on the track because of others, as have plenty of others on here. Shit happens.
It'll be a sad day for trackdays if this guy wins in court.

The marshals are just normal people doing a volunteer job so most just gets missed or because most don't have numbers it's hard to be sure who's who.

yep it will be.

[Katman]

FFS-YOU chose to go on track-what did you think-that the organisors would create a risk profile on each participant or that marshals would throw cotton wool under your bike in the case that something went wrong.

Why do they stipulate no undertaking then?

[ellipsis]

...I only get knocked off by my mates and as there are so few of them, I just buy them a beer and thank them for being 'close friends'...

[Bassmatt]

FFS-YOU chose to go on track

And most people choose to drive on the road, and know the risks inherent in doing that. Whats the difference?

[avgas]

And most people choose to drive on the road, and know the risks inherent in doing that. Whats the difference?

Usually the speed limit and the road rules.

I suspect the OP wasn't "driving miss daisy" or going to the said track day to do a fuel map.
He was there to play with fire and the dumb bastard got burned.

[avgas]

yes riding on a track can be dangerous.

IS not CAN BE.
The fact that it was a bunch of people getting trained only increases said risks.

[SVboy]

Why do they stipulate no undertaking then?

I would imagine you may have been on a track before and are therefore familiar with the stresses and narrow focus riders sometimes display, particularly if they are new to the track. Perhaps the senario was that the "undertaker" had entered the corner a little to fast and was out of his comfort zone. If so, his thought process was probably in survival mode: "how am I going to make it around here without crashing" rather than on a rule in the briefing/indemity form. Of course that is a guess and the perp may have had ambitions greater than his talent, but to judge his liability based on the obviously biased recollections and perceptions of the OP[who isnt even man or woman enough to leave his/her original post up] is fraught.

[Katman]

I would imagine you may have been on a track before and are therefore familiar with the stresses and narrow focus riders sometimes display, particularly if they are new to the track. Perhaps the senario was that the "undertaker" had entered the corner a little to fast and was out of his comfort zone. If so, his thought process was probably in survival mode: "how am I going to make it around here without crashing" rather than on a rule in the briefing/indemity form. Of course that is a guess and the perp may have had ambitions greater than his talent, but to judge his liability based on the obviously biased recollections and perceptions of the OP[who isnt even man or woman enough to leave his/her original post up] is fraught.

Well that certainly didn't answer the question.

[BoristheBiter]

Usually the speed limit and the road rules.

I suspect the OP wasn't "driving miss daisy" or going to the said track day to do a fuel map.
He was there to play with fire and the dumb bastard got burned.

IS not CAN BE.
The fact that it was a bunch of people getting trained only increases said risks.

So then you are in the same thought pattern as watlaw.

You think that it is acceptable to push others off the track just because you are on one.