Welfare support and drug testing

[mashman]

Alas the tin is empty, hence the brain fart. Some people perform better with a bit o' THC in their system

dat ain't no excuse, you're just fuelling their fire... I'm here for ya man, I know how it feels and you aren't exhibiting the classic signs... there must be something else wrong with you.

[husaberg]

No need to sell me on that ya cunt.

He won't be able too why because what happens when someone is fired for failing a drug test exactly what he says can't happen LOL

Hes also that ill informed he isn't aware that some employers actually do drug test their staff.

Then why target only beneficiaries? Those employers should pay for their own testing (not using tax dollars) and start with their existing workforce.

He google's some shit takes it out of context, then thinks then hes a barrister.
I think he has some faulty wiring.....

[FJRider]

But the tests themselves are floored, one example being that if you eat sesame seed cake or bagels and you will test positive.

Well ... if you're on a benefit and going to do the test ... don't eat any.

[mashman]

WINZ pay a reasonable subsidy for the employment of those that were on a benefit. And well worth hiring from an initial financial gain for the employer .... at least 6 months of subsidy. (I think)

I gots to ask the question if the above is true... but why would WINZ pay any subsidy? I'm kinda stunned to here that... and I'll leave the tin foil hat to one side and just stare at the monitor in disbelief.

[Madness]

Well ... if you're on a benefit and going to do the test ... don't eat any.

There's a good chance that of you're on a benefit in this country you can't afford bagels.

[mashman]

He won't be able too why because what happens when someone is fired for failing a drug test exactly what he says can't happen LOL

I agree with him for the most part... my turn of phrase was that of a manly hug.

[FJRider]

I gots to ask the question if the above is true... but why would WINZ pay any subsidy? I'm kinda stunned to here that... and I'll leave the tin foil hat to one side and just stare at the monitor in disbelief.

I understand it is at least the amount of the benefit ... paid to the employer for those that had been on a benefit for more than 3 months (I think)

[FJRider]

... there must be something else wrong with you.

Maybe .... he's special too ...

[husaberg]

I agree with him for the most part... my turn of phrase was that of a manly hug.

And this one a boyish.......I shudder to think

Then why target only beneficiaries? Those employers should pay for their own testing (not using tax dollars) and start with their existing workforce.

Now mashy come on......

[Madness]

Maybe .... he's special too ...

The gay thread's over that way

[mashman]

I understand it is at least the amount of the benefit ... paid to the employer for those that had been on a benefit for more than 3 months (I think)

You're taunting me arnchu...

Maybe .... he's special too ...

He's not. Not that he knocked me back like, I'm just guessing.

And this one a boyish.......I shudder to think

Now mashy come on......

Isn't the law about interpretation. You said it yourself, if it is good for 1 it is good for all and that clearly isn't the case. I didn't have to pass a drugs test to get my job and I dare say there are many others who don't either. That could quite easily mean that beneficiaries are being targetted. You'd have to be pretty well entrenched in some fucked up ideology to deny that... no offense like, just sayin.

[FJRider]

You're taunting me arnchu...

I wouldn't lie to you ...

But I have been "Between jobs" a few times ... and my employers were forthcoming with the employment conditions of WINZ. Potential employers would do well to ask about the subsidy.

[husaberg]

Isn't the law about interpretation. You said it yourself, if it is good for 1 it is good for all and that clearly isn't the case. I didn't have to pass a drugs test to get my job and I dare say there are many others who don't either. That could quite easily mean that beneficiaries are being targetted. You'd have to be pretty well entrenched in some fucked up ideology to deny that... no offense like, just sayin.

Nah the point i'm making is he isn't aware of it.

Sure this rule is about targeted beneficiaries, not all of them, just the ones who take drugs.

Like i have said the one who pays the money, makes the rules.

[Akzle]

Your attention span and comprehension skills are rather lacking as are the validity of your augments.
Read my response i answered every question.

no. you didn't.

i think you must be one of FJ's mates... you get driven around in those vans. licking the windows and writing your special "poetry" on the walls with your own feces....

a) It's an outstanding indication that they're lacking in marketable skills, stop flapping your lips just to hear yourself talk. <- this doesn't make sense. try again.

b)Why we're short of engineers? Because a couple of generations thought their stuff was made by computers and that engineers were old fashioned anachronisms. Turns out they were wrong.

where the fuck are we short of engineers??? srsly.. find me a workshop (that doesn't drug test employees ><) and i'll take it up for a while....

Pot meet Kettle:
You did the same with me failing to respond to the points I raised in post 623 (aimed squarely at you) and the direct questions I put to you in posts 625 and 627. Instead you chose to deflect posting off topic statements couched as questions.

i think he trollin'. noone can be that thick. (asides from FJ.)

Yeah, god forbid work should intefere with your "work/life blend".

Which, in spite of what you might have heard requires one to work first, then you get to live. And not before.

hahahahhaha. that means your life is going to be shit. but nevermind. government loves you. (nevermind that mum used to dress you in diapers and smack you... when you were 14.)

Cannabissidecar bob, creating shit talking morons since ages ago.

can you get your name changed, having the same name as a fuckwit of your calibre makes me feel sticky.

Like i said earlier go on the benefit, take the money tell take out an add in the paper telling everyone its your right to do illlegal drugs cause you are your own person.
See yourself get tested, then booted off the benefit, then argue you case. Go on, if you are so sure your right, do it.....

what the fuck does this HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?? why don't YOU put an ad in the paper
"wanted, windows, clean or semi-clean, view with birdies and pretty sun. for licking. cheap or free"

[husaberg]

no. you didn't.

i think you must be one of FJ's mates... you get driven around in those vans. licking the windows and writing your special "poetry" on the walls with your own feces....

where the fuck are we short of engineers??? srsly.. find me a workshop (that doesn't drug test employees ><) and i'll take it up for a while....


i think he trollin'. noone can be that thick. (asides from FJ.)


hahahahhaha. that means your life is going to be shit. but nevermind. government loves you. (nevermind that mum used to dress you in diapers and smack you... when you were 14.)

can you get your name changed, having the same name as a fuckwit of your calibre makes me feel sticky.


what the fuck does this HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?? why don't YOU put an ad in the paper
"wanted, windows, clean or semi-clean, view with birdies and pretty sun. for licking. cheap or free"

Behold the reason people feel the need to drug test Beneficiaries..........