Welfare support and drug testing

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[mashman]

I live next door to a pub. My street is the next one along from it's main entrance/car-park. I have been followed into my street by plod ... thinking (assuming ... ???) I'm trying to avoid a checkpoint. I am tarred with the brush that some DO attempt to avoid them. I don't mind being tested ... if I have nothing to hide.

Lucky bugga... but not everyone is tested right?

I know of a few reasons ... one is they're too dam lazy to take them. I understand there is a number of free hours available ... so one reason can't be money ...

Some may well be lazy. That doesn't mean that the kid won't get an education and it also doesn't mean that the kid will be unhealthy. Money is most definitely up there. Travel being a big issue.

[FJRider]

Lucky bugga... but not everyone is tested right?

Well .... just everybody they catch. But the assumption that I could be too drunk to drive ... how dare they think that.

I have never been caught drunk driving .(well ok I have ... just not charged ... but that's got nothing to do with it ... right ... ???)

Some may well be lazy. That doesn't mean that the kid won't get an education and it also doesn't mean that the kid will be unhealthy. Money is most definitely up there. Travel being a big issue.

Perhaps the tar brush is being used here too ...

The Goverment provides 20 hours of free child care. So why should money be an issue ... ???

[mashman]

Well .... just everybody they catch. But the assumption that I could be too drunk to drive ... how dare they think that.

I have never been caught drunk driving .(well ok I have ... just not charged ... but that's got nothing to do with it ... right ... ???)

Perhaps the tar brush is being used here too ...

The Goverment provides 20 hours of free child care. So why should money be an issue ... ???

Your driving must be shit.

Have you any idea how far some of these ECE's are away from where some people live? Tain't cheap to do those sorts of K's... especially if work is in the opposite direction.

[FJRider]

Your driving must be shit.

Shhhhhh ....

Have you any idea how far some of these ECE's are away from where some people live? Tain't cheap to do those sorts of K's... especially if work is in the opposite direction.

In some circumstances ... funding or assistance to get the childcare can be provided.

Maybe the parents could get a part-time job while the kid(s) are in day-care. As this proposed legislation is for beneficiaries ...

[scumdog]

Who made up those 'stats'?

[FJRider]

#1 under the same name anyway ...

#2 That they know of ...

#3 Some parents find they have more important things to spend their money on ... than their kids ...

#4 Depending on how long it is before the kid turns 16 ...

#5 Most kiwi's prefer to work. Some just prefer not to ...

#6 So when the recession ends ... they'll all be back at work ... ???

[mashman]

Shhhhhh ....

In some circumstances ... funding or assistance to get the childcare can be provided.

Maybe the parents could get a part-time job while the kid(s) are in day-care. As this proposed legislation is for beneficiaries ...

My apologies, your secret is safe with me

I believe there are "traveling" carers.

Have you been to the pub? I did mention that it was financially prohibitive when work is in the opposite direction.

Who made up those 'stats'?

I know... there's no way the stats posted could be anywhere near as true as that given that our glorious leaders tell us something entirely different. Why would they keep the truth from us?

[mashman]

#1 under the same name anyway ...

#2 That they know of ...

#3 Some parents find they have more important things to spend their money on ... than their kids ...

#4 Depending on how long it is before the kid turns 16 ...

#5 Most kiwi's prefer to work. Some just prefer not to ...

#6 So when the recession ends ... they'll all be back at work ... ???

#7 Never underestimate the power of denial ...

[FJRider]

#7 Never underestimate the power of denial ...

I wont .......

[98tls]

Tell me thats a wind up eh,ive seen some shit stats posted on here over the years but thats shot straight to the top.

[imdying]

More propaganda... sure they're small looking percentages, but the numbers and dollars involved are not.

Whilst we continue to live in this little fairyland named democracy this is the sort of shit we'll have to put up with.

[Banditbandit]

More propaganda... sure they're small looking percentages, but the numbers and dollars involved are not.

Yes, that's true. The dollars are high - and that is because more than 50% of all our welfare payments are to old age pensioners.

http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyre...3Benefits1.pdf

[imdying]

Big deal, the other half are not.

[sidecar bob]

Whats Pakeha?