Commodity ownership?

[R6_kid:Me]

I own gravity. Pay up now or I else I'm turning yours off.

[Road kill]

The have rights to the Green Lake in Rotorua (massive trout I understand)...its Tapu to honky....

Tapu to honky

So you think it's sacred to honky in other words.

Best you bone up on your Te Reo and the real meaning of Tapu bro

Btw,,,if you ment there's a Rahui aimed at non Maori use of the lake,,,your wrong.

[Berries]

You are wrong. Best bone up on your English.

[liljegren]

There are no Maori in New Zealand. There are some part-Maori people. They are a social group, no longer wholly defined by race.
I'm a Pom by birth, so I'm even more fucked up!

[Winston001]

You are wrong

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10833926

They're just greedy fuckwits like the rest of us. I think issue would resolve it's self very quickly if most New Zealanders suddenly pronounced themselves as "Maori".

Fair enough, understood. However the Maori King saying Maori "own water" doesn't mean much. He is a figurehead and talking in simple terms. I doubt he knows the subtleties of the real arguments. The hui resolved "proprietary rights must be settled...etc". Rights to water - just like we already have in a myriad of resource consent orders today.

[Winston001]

Just to muddy the waters as t'were, there is an obscure body of law which recognises aboriginal rights. These are customary pre-colonial uses and rights enjoyed by indigenous people prior to the arrival of the Dutch, Belgians, Spanish...and the English.

Aboriginal being in its original meaning of native peoples.

Canada is recognising such rights, New Zealand is leading the world, and Australia is slowly catching up. A claim to actual ownership of water can be made under aboriginal rights.

[Berries]

There was a documentary that covered how those aboriginal rights may affect modern day issues. The Castle.

Tell him he's dreaming.

[Maha]

Tapu to honky

So you think it's sacred to honky in other words.

Best you bone up on your Te Reo and the real meaning of Tapu bro

Btw,,,if you ment there's a Rahui aimed at non Maori use of the lake,,,your wrong.

I understand what Tapu means and why Lake Rotokakahi is Tapu....because of the Maori burial site on the Island.
The lake is Tapu and looks Paku/Kaka 12 months of the year even during the summer season because of it....(not used)
I also know that Lake Tikitapu is not sacred to little plastic green figures.


...and thats you're not your...you are welcome.

[Road kill]

I understand what Tapu means and why Lake Rotokakahi is Tapu....because of the Maori burial site on the Island.
The lake is Tapu and looks Paku/Kaka 12 months of the year even during the summer season because of it....(not used)
I also know that Lake Tikitapu is not sacred to little plastic green figures.


...and thats you're not your...you are welcome.

The lake is covered by a general Rahui that covers everybody,not just non Maori.

And that's Honkie,not honky.

You're most welcome as well

[insomnia01]

Reading an interesting article outlining the 2014 introduction of " Water Metering for landlords & Renters " With all this race bashing about who owns what, it seems profiteering from another earthly " Commodity " has already been formed as part of another tax idea for years to come by local councils & government bodies . Apartment dwellers watch out !!!

[Drew]

Reading an interesting article outlining the 2014 introduction of " Water Metering for landlords & Renters " With all this race bashing about who owns what, it seems profiteering from another earthly " Commodity " has already been formed as part of another tax idea for years to come by local councils & government bodies . Apartment dwellers watch out !!!

What the fuck are you talking about? Metered water costs are for the getting of said water to the tap, not paying tor the water itself.

[Road kill]

There are no Maori in New Zealand. There are some part-Maori people. They are a social group, no longer wholly defined by race.
I'm a Pom by birth, so I'm even more fucked up!

Where do you get that from,,,the no Maori bit ?

[insomnia01]

What the fuck are you talking about? Metered water costs are for the getting of said water to the tap, not paying tor the water itself.

makes for a expensive commodity then dont it !!!

[FJRider]

Aboriginal being in its original meaning of native peoples.

Canada is recognising such rights, New Zealand is leading the world, and Australia is slowly catching up. A claim to actual ownership of water can be made under aboriginal rights.

If the Maori were the original owners of the land maybe ... but they're not. They killed/ate/drove of the original owners ...

Then white fella's came and took over ownership .... whats changed apart from the owners skin colour ... ???

[Road kill]

If the Maori were the original owners of the land maybe ... but they're not. They killed/ate/drove of the original owners ...

Then white fella's came and took over ownership .... whats changed apart from the owners skin colour ... ???

My family line comes from before Maori times,,as do most of Nga puhi,,,so if that's true it was obviously a little more complex than "drove off or killed",,plus it happened over a very long time not just in the last 200 years.

The white fella's took over nothing,,they were invited in and they signed an agreement they've had trouble living with ever since.

So what's your point anyway ?