MotoGP 2012

**tail_end_charlie** · 19th September 2012, 17:01

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

And if anyone can...he can! Like a hot knife through butter!

Ha ha, yeah, but the guys at the back of the pack don't like it when that happens, just ask Dani....

**Crasherfromwayback** · 19th September 2012, 17:03

Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie

Ha ha, yeah, but the guys at the back of the pack don't like it when that happens, just ask Dani....

Yep. There lies the problem. But Lorenzo goes past people with so much extra pace he'll be gone before they get the chance to fuck him up.

**tail_end_charlie** · 19th September 2012, 17:10

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Yep. There lies the problem. But Lorenzo goes past people with so much extra pace he'll be gone before they get the chance to fuck him up.

Well, if we see anybody out there with mirrors on their bike, I guess we will know what they are planning on doing........

**Crasherfromwayback** · 19th September 2012, 17:15

Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie

Well, if we see anybody out there with mirrors on their bike, I guess we will know what they are planning on doing........

The speeds those sick fucks do would just fold ya mirrors back into the fairing!

**tail_end_charlie** · 19th September 2012, 17:28

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

The speeds those sick fucks do would just fold ya mirrors back into the fairing!

They won't get to those speeds in the first couple of corners though, thats the danger zone. JL would be past 80-90% of the paddock in the first lap. Shit, DP made it past all the CRT bikes in like 200 meters!!

(His start was totally awsome to watch, flying past those guys, right up to the point that HB took him out.....)

Course DP started from the back of the grid, where-as in what we're talking about, JL would be starting from pit lane. If it does happen, it'll be totally worth watching him carve through the field.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 19th September 2012, 17:56

Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie

: (His start was totally awsome to watch, flying past those guys, .

Done a few like that myself. Jumped start be fucked! :-)

**tigertim20** · 19th September 2012, 21:36

well anyone who calls moto gp boring certanly didnt watch the misano race!!! very exciting.
what a shambles overall, regardless of who was at fault. I do feel for pedrosa, he is the eternal almost champion, a win there would have made it so fucking close at the end with lorenzo being short on engines and all that it isnt funny. A good point earlier about how this evens things up with both lorenzo and pedrosa having a dnf that wasnt really their fault - but what happens on race day, happens on race day and you got to just eat it and move on. I would have loved it if there were 4-5 points in it with one round to go!

Originally Posted by Oscar

It ain't over till it's over.
Don't forget that Gorgeous George is short of engines. He's only a couple of pieces of bad luck away from starting from pit row.

true. if I were Lorenzo, I would try to make it to phillip island and put a new engine in the bike in aussie. start from pit lane, accept that stoner will win his home GP, and pedrosa will harass him for it, and take the 3rd or 4th place or so, easy points, low risk, and a barely run in engine where he can start front row in the last race.

that way between now and then he can stay consistent, Stoner aint gonna win the championship, and all he has to do between now and auzzie is maintain the current gap, he could come second to pedrosa three times between now and then and still be safe as houses even with a new lump at PI.

of course Id rather see elbow to elbow racing the whole way through, but when a championship is hinged upon tactical decisions due to a lost engine, well, you want the crown on your head at the end really dont you?

**tail_end_charlie** · 19th September 2012, 23:26

Originally Posted by tigertim20

true. if I were Lorenzo, I would try to make it to phillip island and put a new engine in the bike in aussie. start from pit lane, accept that stoner will win his home GP, and pedrosa will harass him for it, and take the 3rd or 4th place or so, easy points, low risk, and a barely run in engine where he can start front row in the last race.

that way between now and then he can stay consistent, Stoner aint gonna win the championship, and all he has to do between now and auzzie is maintain the current gap, he could come second to pedrosa three times between now and then and still be safe as houses even with a new lump at PI.

of course Id rather see elbow to elbow racing the whole way through, but when a championship is hinged upon tactical decisions due to a lost engine, well, you want the crown on your head at the end really dont you?

If he uses a 7th engine, does he only have to start one race from pit lane? Or all of the remaining races? I would think it would be he later.

**Mental Trousers** · 20th September 2012, 08:34

It's a single penalty per engine over the 6 engine limit. So a single race started from pit lane for engine #7. Another pit lane start for engine #8 etc.

**tail_end_charlie** · 20th September 2012, 09:26

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

It's a single penalty per engine over the 6 engine limit. So a single race started from pit lane for engine #7. Another pit lane start for engine #8 etc.

Oh wow, didn't know that it was only one race. Makes it seem like that is a rule without much bite. If they are going to have an engine limit, then they might as well enforce it half decently and make you start from pit lane for every race left in the season once you exceed the 6 engine limit.

**tbs** · 20th September 2012, 09:33

And now for some discussion about Moto2 and Scott Redding

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/184..._in_moto2.html

Bit of debate about this on Crash.net. Not everyone is sympathetic. Lot's of comments along the lines of "lose a couple of kgs and stop whining"... but I feel for the guy. Doing all the hard work passing on the corners and then losing places getting out-dragged on every straight must start to really suck after a while.

**Oscar** · 20th September 2012, 09:39

Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie

Oh wow, didn't know that it was only one race. Makes it seem like that is a rule without much bite. If they are going to have an engine limit, then they might as well enforce it half decently and make you start from pit lane for every race left in the season once you exceed the 6 engine limit.

Jeez, you're a bit tough!
By it's very nature the rule would only penalise someone at the sharp end of the season where the outcome is critical. A pit row start from Lorenso in any of the remaing races could be potentially critical.

**tbs** · 20th September 2012, 09:41

Originally Posted by Oscar

Jeez, you're a bit tough!
By it's very nature the rule would only penalise someone at the sharp end of the season where the outcome is critical. A pit row start from Lorenso in any of the remaing races could be potentially critical.

Yeah, it's only supposed to be a cost saving rule after all. It's not there to totally bugger someone's championship. And especially when you consider that Lorenzo didn't do anything wrong. He was skittled by one Mr Bautista...