MotoGP 2012

[Crasherfromwayback]

I do hey la my boyfriends back

lol. Not quite!

[Sketchy_Racer]

Not likely to get the answer here, but can't help thinking after watching the Aragon MotoGP race (which I thought was great) - is Spies' Yamaha set up like a POS, compared to Lorenzo's, or is he just not up to it? I would like to think the former.

But, it's one or the other.

His bike looks like a POS. It has fell apart a couple times - suffered from a broken subframe and collapsed swingarm linkage causing one of his crashes, and a motor that shat itself, there's no denying it is a parts bin special. Just imagine if all that happened on George Lawrence's bike, the fucken world would end.

In saying that though I think his riding level has dropped but isn't much of a surprise given the circumstances.

As for the MotoGP, Thank fuck Crutchlow and Dovi mixed it up a little. Seemed like there was more passing in the last lap of Moto2 than there was in the entire MotoGP race.

[Crasherfromwayback]

His bike looks like a POS. It has fell apart a couple times - suffered from a broken subframe and collapsed swingarm linkage causing one of his crashes, and a motor that shat itself, there's no denying it is a parts bin special. Just imagine if all that happened on George Lawrence's bike, the fucken world would end.

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You might find it would've happened to Lorenzo's bike if he'd had Spies team working on it mate.

[GD66]

Not likely to get the answer here, but can't help thinking after watching the Aragon MotoGP race (which I thought was great) - is Spies' Yamaha set up like a POS, compared to Lorenzo's, or is he just not up to it?

Hard to be sure from watching on tv vs watching trackside, but it looks low-slung and doughy in the arse. Which no doubt helps him achieve those eye-popping lean angles, but when he tries to drive out of a corner it sort of hunkers down and spins sideways. Disturbingly, he's still overshooting corner entries as well. At least something bizarre didn't happen to the bike this week, and he didn't crash (always good !) but as has been pointed out elsewhere, the Tech 3 bikes looked much more manageable.

[Sketchy_Racer]

You might find it would've happened to Lorenzo's bike if he'd had Spies team working on it mate.

Entirely possible, I have no idea on how much influence each riders personal team get on the mechanical assembly of the bike and the motors, I would have thought Yamaha would have kept control of both as failures like the ones on Ben's bike are terrible for the brand.

EIther way it is hard to judge from the outside looking in, I like Spies, for a yank he never complains and just tries his best. That and his style looks freaken awesome!

[Brian d marge]

Entirely possible, I have no idea on how much influence each riders personal team get on the mechanical assembly of the bike and the motors, I would have thought Yamaha would have kept control of both as failures like the ones on Ben's bike are terrible for the brand.

EIther way it is hard to judge from the outside looking in, I like Spies, for a yank he never complains and just tries his best. That and his style looks freaken awesome!

As I said before and reading between the lines, his mom has bent something/one out of shape and lets just say Yamaha are keeping to the contract

though you quite right, a failure at this level?? Honda always said it was electrical.........and it really does reflect on the brand

Stephen

[roogazza]

Moto2 was absolutely brilliant. Great to see all and sundry giving Marquez absolutely no quarter. Little shit just takes it and then returns it with interest tho Still love to see him on a bike where he can't just motor past people on the straights. Must drive Iannone to despair tho he's got the slam it down the inside routine down to perfection. Gutsy ride from Redding.

Moto3 was good too.

MotoGP. Crutchlow was faster than Dovi today but just couldn't make an overtake stick. Spies used to be a fuckload better than this and that's one of his better performances.

Iannone made some great moves, it doesn't look like he thinks much of MM and tied him up for a bit. MM settling for 2nd and points.
Moto3 also great with 13 bike freight train at one stage.
For me taking the shine off the 1000's.
I thought Dovi had Crutchless pretty much in hand with his braking and track position.

I saw Rossi look back to the Duc on the ground in practice and just shake his head. Then in the race from last to 8th.
He's over it, I'm sure.

[denill]

Hard to be sure from watching on tv vs watching trackside, but it looks low-slung and doughy in the arse. Which no doubt helps him achieve those eye-popping lean angles, but when he tries to drive out of a corner it sort of hunkers down and spins sideways. Disturbingly, he's still overshooting corner entries as well. At least something bizarre didn't happen to the bike this week, and he didn't crash (always good !) but as has been pointed out elsewhere, the Tech 3 bikes looked much more manageable.

And that's the hard to comprehend fact. That he's riding a factory bike (as is Jorge) and he's being trounced by the satellite riders...............

I dunno

[Crasherfromwayback]

Entirely possible, I have no idea on how much influence each riders personal team get on the mechanical assembly of the bike and the motors, I would have thought Yamaha would have kept control of both as failures like the ones on Ben's bike are terrible for the brand.

EIther way it is hard to judge from the outside looking in, I like Spies, for a yank he never complains and just tries his best. That and his style looks freaken awesome!

His team have nothing at all to do with engine assembly. It's all top secret and done in house. But it's his team that I'm guessing didn't pick up the subframe had been damaged in his practice crash in Quatar, the Swingarm or susp damage perhaps in Laguna. Also...whilst it's prob not their fault...perhaps Lorenzo's engine was damaged if it ran whilst on it's side at Indy for a bit? I know it's a huge amount of bad luck...but I doubt his bike is a 'parts bin special'. Can't see Yamaha wanting the world to see those failures mate.

[DidJit]

Admit it. You're all missing my BF!

Yup.

... As for the MotoGP, Thank fuck Crutchlow and Dovi mixed it up a little. ...

I agree. The Tech 3 Twins’ battles have been the most entertaining to watch in the premier class for most of the season.

... Then in the race from last to 8th. ...

I'm sure he would have preferred not to do that, but I thought that was a pretty good ride last back up to 8th lapping for the majority of the race in the 1'50 and 1'51s (with another run-off thrown in).

[roogazza]

And that's the hard to comprehend fact. That he's riding a factory bike (as is Jorge) and he's being trounced by the satellite riders...............
I dunno

I'm inclined to think most of Spies problems are in the HJC helmet at the moment.
Plus the Tech 3 bikes look pretty close to the factory jobbies.

Yup.
I'm sure he would have preferred not to do that, but I thought that was a pretty good ride last back up to 8th lapping for the majority of the race in the 1'50 and 1'51s (with another run-off thrown in).

Yes,little Johnny Rea has had a couple of run ins (like the Rossi one) with others. He tends to grab by the scruff and use 250 type, late Apexes. I like him.

[DidJit]

You think Rea might have surprised Rossi with his late turn-in? Looked like Rossi was coming in a lot hotter, Rea adjusted his line/went a bit wider for his turn-in (which, unbeknownst to Rea, left Rossi no room at the speed he was coming in)... so, yeah, I guess he must have. Solid ride by Rea too, by the way. He'll be one to watch at Magny-Cours this weekend.

[denill]

You think Rea might have surprised Rossi with his late turn-in? Looked like Rossi was coming in a lot hotter, Rea adjusted his line/went a bit wider for his turn-in (which, unbeknownst to Rea, left Rossi no room at the speed he was coming in)... so, yeah, I guess he must have. Solid ride by Rea too, by the way.

That Rea has (surprisingly) not biffed one of Mr Honda's expensive beasties will have done him no harm at all. And yeah, no one can fault Rea for the VR episode. It was his line to take and he took it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Will say what about his mate Spies daring to say this about a track? Do you see Alberto Puig up in arms over it? No.

As Ben Spies tweeted later, Gonna complain a bit... .. they built a track in the middle of nowhere with nothing in sight. You shouldn't be able to hit a wall if u try..dumb.


So why get ya panties in a bunch when people say Indy is a shithole.

[ktm84mxc]

Expect to see Crashers BF back for the last 3 rounds as he has a great strike record at Malaysia and Philip Isld , will Marky Mark get a run on the RCV212 at Valenica hope he does as he should have wrapped up the Moto2 champs by then.
On a side note Crasher will you be taking the SR to either Whakatane or Taupo for the VMX series?