Wanted: Hornet 900 rear shock

[Warr]

Time to give-up on the sad OEM red thing supporting my swing arm.
Wanting to locate for my 2005 Hornet 919 a Yellow model, Ohlins 46DR

[TerminalAddict]

or a 46HRCS

[TerminalAddict]

Unfortunately I google 46dr ohlins (pages only in NZ) and only find me talking about it .. crikey

[Drew]

Get the eye sizes, and buy anything the same. Then get it sprung and valved, and made the right length for the Hornet.

Can't see any reason someone would sell an ohlins shock for a Hornet unless it's written off. Given how bad the standard one is.

[Warr]

The one called the Ohlins Streetline model number HO322 which is still a $(4 digit number)

Tho Robert Tayor has on his shelf a returned up-spec one,
(Ohlins HO 201 type 46HRCS with remote reservoir and preload)
which the price could possibly be negoiated .... tho still end up being a $(4 digit number)

[Drew]

The one called the Ohlins Streetline model number HO322 which is still a $(4 digit number)

Tho Robert Tayor has on his shelf a returned up-spec one,
(Ohlins HO 201 type 46HRCS with remote reservoir and preload)
which the price could possibly be negoiated .... tho still end up being a $(4 digit number)

You're so limited by Honda's cost saving, non linkage budget rear end. It sucks!

You are gonna be exceptionally lucky to get one for $(less than four digit number).

You could probably, chuck a stumpy pipe underneath, and replace the swing arm with something decent with a shock for teh same money. Not Ohlins of course, but probably just as good as a direct action Ohlins can work anyway.

[Gremlin]

Can't see any reason someone would sell an ohlins shock for a Hornet unless it's written off. Given how bad the standard one is.

This is a good point actually... My boss and I both have Ohlins shocks in our Hornets, sprung for our weight etc.

Wouldn't give them up either. Every few 10's of thou you send it off for a service... (argh, should probably get mine done, it's done 48k)

[Ocean1]

You're so limited by Honda's cost saving, non linkage budget rear end. It sucks!

Now, I'm no expert. But there's very good reasons to avoid the extra complexity and mass of linkages. With direct coupled shocks there's not only fewer moving parts but there's fewer highly loaded and poorly sealed needle rollers to wear out and sieze and generally completely fuck up the relationship between the shock and rear wheel.

'Course to get the same rising-rate effect from a direct coupled item makes for a higher spec'd, more precisely controled shock valveing system. Like most KTMs. Which possibly partly explains why they're a few Kg lighter than the competition, eh? And certsainly explains why they don't have reliablility issues associated with needle rollers running in mud.

[Drew]

Now, I'm no expert. But there's very good reasons to avoid the extra complexity and mass of linkages. With direct coupled shocks there's not only fewer moving parts but there's fewer highly loaded and poorly sealed needle rollers to wear out and sieze and generally completely fuck up the relationship between the shock and rear wheel.

'Course to get the same rising-rate effect from a direct coupled item makes for a higher spec'd, more precisely controled shock valveing system. Like most KTMs. Which possibly partly explains why they're a few Kg lighter than the competition, eh? And certsainly explains why they don't have reliablility issues associated with needle rollers running in mud.

All that is probably good on the dirt. Show me a performance bike that runs direct. Not that the Hornet matches that description, but the rear shock is SOOOOOOO bad that an upgrade is nearly a safety requirement.

On a road bike, the rising rate is more important. As is keeping the shock cooler.

[Ocean1]

All that is probably good on the dirt. Show me a performance bike that runs direct.

Does the Buell count?

On a road bike, the rising rate is more important. As is keeping the shock cooler.

You can get a rising rate with a direct coupled shock too. It's just more harder to organise around engines and wheels and shit getting in the way.

[Drew]

Does the Buell count?

Hahahaha, I deleted a bit where I made a comment about your bike being a farm bike, not a sports bike, but didn't know how you'd take it.

You can get a rising rate with a direct coupled shock too. It's just more harder to organise around engines and wheels and shit getting in the way.

yeah, but the shaft still has to move through a longer stroke. So it heats up the oil and stops working quicker.

[AllanB]

Contact Robert Taylor mate. He set me up with a beauty. Ohlins only made the fancy pants full bells and whistles jobbie specifically for the 900 Hornet.

Robert will build up the more basioc spec one to Ohlins specs set up for your weight etc.

Works a friggen treat - a massive improvement on the stock pogo stick.

[Drew]

Contact Robert Taylor mate. He set me up with a beauty. Ohlins only made the fancy pants full bells and whistles jobbie specifically for the 900 Hornet.

Robert will build up the more basioc spec one to Ohlins specs set up for your weight etc.

Works a friggen treat - a massive improvement on the stock pogo stick.

Always a good idea to read the whole thread man.

[AllanB]

Wot?

Guy wants a Ohlins for a Horny 900. Told him where to geot one. Got one told him how shit hot it is.

[Ocean1]

Hahahaha, I deleted a bit where I made a comment about your bike being a farm bike, not a sports bike, but didn't know how you'd take it.

Well, it lives on a farm, sorta. And I guess you could call it's owner somewhat agricultural...

But it's a better machine than it's rider knows how to manage. Actually I've rarely had cause to wrinkle the seat from rear suspension performance. The front occasionally worries me.

yeah, but the shaft still has to move through a longer stroke. So it heats up the oil and stops working quicker.

The real advantage with a linkage setup is that you can get faster shaft movement as you load it up. That means the spring rate AND the compression valving is ramping up faster as you bottom out. That's very hard to organise with a direct couple.

I worry about shit like: If shocks were under tension, rather than compression they could be a shitload smaller and lighter.