MotoGP 2012

**Reckless** · 3rd October 2012, 21:17

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Only if you're one of the sad fucks that thinks Harleys are shit simply because you don't like them. Slighty loves his. Doohan has one too. Perhaps they don't know shit compared to you!

Tell me what you think Aaron should own and ride? I'll be sure to pass on your advice next time I see him.

Jeepers crasher you aint had sex

in a while bit of pent up emotion there lmao

**Crasherfromwayback** · 3rd October 2012, 21:31

Originally Posted by Reckless

Jeepers crasher you aint had sex

in a while bit of pent up emotion there lmao

lol. Correct. What are you doing tonight?

Rach is still living it up large over seas until we catch up at Phillip Island. Popped five inflatable dolls so far.

**GD66** · 3rd October 2012, 21:45

Originally Posted by Drew

Astroturf. No a bike doesn't turn that well on it either.

Astroturf and all sorts. David Emmett has mentioned on his site that he paced it out at around 110 metres, and in Hayden's line from the track to the fence he ran across track, kerb, astroturf, big travel trap, astroturf, kerb, track return that Rossi and WSBK use, kerb, astroturf, grass, tarmac walkway about a metre wide, grass, mud, tyre wall.

Probably explains why he froze on the bike, trying to process the bewildering variety of surfaces he was running across and how best to avoid an ugly finish. Was actually a pretty snazzy dismount all the same...

**actungbaby** · 3rd October 2012, 22:09

[QUOTE=GD66;1130408041][QUOTE=Drew;1130407826]He was hardly moving (all things considered), silly bugger should have at least tried to turn away from riding straight into the wall. [QUOTE]

True, I've watched it a few times and am mystified why he just fixates on the wall and beelines towards it with the inside foot off the rest and leg trailing, just like that annoying habit racers have

I think he said he was worried he go head first into the fence one those things i guess he just froze

Good thing he was okay seems great guy, maybe all bit gun shy after what happened to marco

certianly seems affected colin edwards

**actungbaby** · 3rd October 2012, 22:12

Originally Posted by Drew

I couldn't believe the 1989 race there aye, Doohan, Raney, and Gardner all hopping into the dirt to get the run down the straight. Just to be outbraked into turn one anyway.

Still the best GP race ever.

yeah was a classic race thats for sure how come you dont see passing like that, said philip island was

Was the flowing corners but in motogp there seems bit boring(mind you if i was on the bike i be

@#$$ myself hehe

**Mental Trousers** · 4th October 2012, 08:08

He was trying to save it and get back in the race. Left foot out dirt tracker styles, waited until he lost a bit of speed, started to turn it left but the back went, snapped back on him, he pulled his foot up onto the peg to get full control back but it was too late went into the wall. He's actually looking to the left almost the entire time he's off the track (his helmet has a symetrical design on the back but through the entire sequence that design is skewed cos he's looking left)

**Badjelly** · 4th October 2012, 09:09

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

He was trying to save it and get back in the race.

Yes, of course he was. He's a racer. The worst accidents happen because of that. Perhaps we need to genetically alter the racers so they just give up when they're beaten....Nah, that'll never work.

**Mental Trousers** · 4th October 2012, 09:21

Originally Posted by Badjelly

Yes, of course he was. He's a racer. The worst accidents happen because of that. Perhaps we need to genetically alter the racers so they just give up when they're beaten....Nah, that'll never work.

That is what gets those guys MotoGP rides while the rest of us trundle around at club meetings. Anybody else would've bailed but those guys refuse to believe it's going to end badly.

**pritch** · 4th October 2012, 09:38

Originally Posted by quallman1234

I think they got sick of WSBK threatening to sue them so they just brought them out!

I don't think so, both WSBK and Dorna have been owned by Bridgepoint for some time.

Dorna must think it's Christmas. Honda have been opposing the proposed rule changes to the extent they have threatened to walk from MotoGP to concentrate on SBK. There have also been comments from Honda about production racers and new V4s, some or all of which, may be more in the nature of smoke and mirrors.

I hope the V4 mentioned by Ito San is more real than imagined though. The commentators mentioned recently that Honda (or Ten Kate) have got an English engine firm trying to make the CBR competitive for one more season.

There is another meeting due imminently (at Motegi?) and this must strengthen Dorna's hand. Or at least they will think it does?

One pundit said that WSBK has good racing but no money, MotoGP has got cash but crap racing. Here's hoping we don't wind up with two series with no cash and crap racing.

**Mental Trousers** · 4th October 2012, 09:53

Since Bridgepoint has been in control of both Dorna and InFront for a while now it's not surprising they're looking to make better use of both.

It's the usual rationalization and restructure that goes on all the time. Combine responsibilities where possible and where it makes sense, focus each of them on what they do best and offload those that aren't core etc.

Now we should see rule sets and schedules that don't compete with each other and hopefully a better all around product in the end.

**tail_end_charlie** · 4th October 2012, 11:21

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Oct/120903ool.htm

Does sorta make it sound like Dorna now has a monopoly over the World Championship motorcycle road racing. My biggest question is; are they going to try and immediately dial back the WSBK to more of a stock production series and if so, how???

**Oscar** · 4th October 2012, 11:31

Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Oct/120903ool.htm

Does sorta make it sound like Dorna now has a monopoly over the World Championship motorcycle road racing. My biggest question is; are they going to try and immediately dial back the WSBK to more of a stock production series and if so, how???

They are certainly going to dial back WSBK, and you pretty much answered the question - the bikes will be closer to stock production models.

At the same time MotoGP bikes will be prototypes with standard cylinder dimensions, ECU's and tyres, which should limit RPM's, and make it cheaper for the smaller factories. How Honda (and Yamaha, who usually follows Brand H) will react is going to be interesting...

**denill** · 4th October 2012, 11:45

Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Oct/120903ool.htm

Does sorta make it sound like Dorna now has a monopoly over the World Championship motorcycle road racing. My biggest question is; are they going to try and immediately dial back the WSBK to more of a stock production series and if so, how???

And will it mean that we will see more riders doing WSBK and MotoGP duties (A la Jonny Rea)

Imagine if you will - VR riding a WSBK?