Big hikes in ACC levies for some

[davereid]

http://www.acc.co.nz/PRD_EXT_CSMP/gr.../wpc114247.pdf

The "whos next" program was right on target, and the answer appears to be the 3501kg truck...


Interestingly, it also introduces the idea of charging trucking companies that have a lower "audit" or "Fleet Operator" rating, a higher ACC levy.

I bet this ends up coming back to bite bikers...

[James Deuce]

Hahahahahahahahaha.

I like to see the levy scheme changed to put the over 600cc LAMS bikes in category 2.

If truckers start looking for support from us, remember to tell them to get fucked.

[DEATH_INC.]

If truckers start looking for support from us, remember to tell them to get fucked.

No. We should back them up as much as we can. They will be in the same boat as us, where a lot of those truck accidents are not caused by the truck, yet they are expected to pay for it. If they can beat it, then we get a second chance....

[swbarnett]

If truckers start looking for support from us, remember to tell them to get fucked.

Quite the opposite. I'll be there with bells on and I would hope the rest of the 6 odd thousand that turned up in Welly will be there to.

By all means let them know that we told them so but, now that they know we were right we're in an ideal position to join forces.

[sidecar bob]

Or perhaps they are going to be a little fairer to people that drive diesel cars under 3501kg , rather than have them continue to pay the commercial vehicle levy as they have been.

[James Deuce]

The amount of schadenfreude leaking out of the Trucking lobbyists during the Bikoi was disgusting. Let the fuckers rot. There is no avoiding this path, no one will "fix" it now. We lost, move on, laugh at the dickheads who refused to nip the removal of ACC in the bud and the ongoing dismantling of any form of Governmental social contract with the voters.

Laughing at the short-sighted muppets is the only satisfaction you'll get.

[James Deuce]

Or perhaps they are going to be a little fairer to people that drive diesel cars under 3501kg , rather than have them continue to pay the commercial vehicle levy as they have been.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha.

*Sigh*

[bogan]

Top figure of page 7, why is the current portion we pay now, double what it will be in 2019? Are we going to halve the accident cost by then, then allow it to start increasing again, cos thats what the graph seems to be saying.

With the GSV thing, their budget shows 110k in fuel costs for a 3 truck business, with ACC's 9.9c per L (4.5% currently) that would give them 4950 bucks, or 1650 per vehicle. Seems like that should cover it right?

FSIP is just another up-to-fuck-all 'safety' initiative that will end up costing us all more.

[Maha]

No. We should back them up as much as we can. They will be in the same boat as us, where a lot of those truck accidents are not caused by the truck, yet they are expected to pay for it. If they can beat it, then we get a second chance....

Quite the opposite. I'll be there with bells on and I would hope the rest of the 6 odd thousand that turned up in Welly will be there to.

By all means let them know that we told them so but, now that they know we were right we're in an ideal position to join forces.

This very notion was put on the table by the 'Events Organiser' of an ill fated action group....but was met with a few folded arms and finger wagging by the many. Soon after, 'the many' lept like Lemmings off a clif. I guess with realisation that, without the support from everyone that could/would be effected, the shit just couldn't be pushed any further up that rather steep incline.

[mashman]

Quite the opposite. I'll be there with bells on and I would hope the rest of the 6 odd thousand that turned up in Welly will be there to.

By all means let them know that we told them so but, now that they know we were right we're in an ideal position to join forces.

seconded...

[mashman]

The amount of schadenfreude leaking out of the Trucking lobbyists during the Bikoi was disgusting. Let the fuckers rot. There is no avoiding this path, no one will "fix" it now. We lost, move on, laugh at the dickheads who refused to nip the removal of ACC in the bud and the ongoing dismantling of any form of Governmental social contract with the voters.

Laughing at the short-sighted muppets is the only satisfaction you'll get.

pot kettle black... praps the trucking INDUSTRY will have more luck than solo motorcyclists?

[James Deuce]

pot kettle black... praps the trucking INDUSTRY will have more luck than solo motorcyclists?

Not a hope. This isn't to tie up the "Industry", this is to sort out tradesmen and utility type vehicles, as well has targeting SUVs and recreational diesel vehicles. The "Industry" won't touch it lest they draw attention to themselves.

[Ocean1]

I can't be fucked even looking at the document.

Becha the price structure will be changing. To include more finely differentiated categories, possibly to introduce new ones altogether. Yes?

Small wager: the fee structure changes will be nicely aligned to better target those that can afford to pay 'em. Costs for those groups alone will be rising.

Am I close?

In spite of statistical contortions a 6 year old could see through it'll have fuck all to do with any "fairer" way to attribute costs.


Just call me Nostradamus.

[Ocean1]

Oh, for those interested I've just released my own policy consultation document:

Come hell or high water I'll be paying less ACC related costs next year.

[mossy1200]

I wonder how many minority groups the government can touch before we have our own NZ Guido Fawkes night.