Victory Motorcycles?

[Monkfish]

I dont mind the Victory bikes
but they are not Harley Davidson....simple:-)

This is why Harleys do not evolve.... because of their riders...

But I do Like the fact that a stock american Crusier with Apehangers is faster than the "mighty" V-Rod. and IMHO look a whole lot better too.

[scumdog]

This is why Harleys do not evolve.... because of their riders...

But I do Like the fact that a stock american Crusier with Apehangers is faster than the "mighty" V-Rod. and IMHO look a whole lot better too.

And with less power and cost no doubt...

[geoffc]

Not particularly keen on H.D. but like Victory bikes, not sure why but the few I've seen are nice looking machines.

[Phantom Limb]

I like the Victory range because they use the S&S motors.
S&S have a business model based around making performance parts for Harley motors, but they quickly developed to service custom bike builders that are sick and tired of using half baked Harley motors that were out of date 20 years ago, but still requiring a big soulful vtwin to power their creations. Enter S&S, modern engineering principles whilst still retaining that good ol' big twin rumble. A better motor than the HD offerings from every single engineering perspective. If you buy an HD you are doing so PURELY for personal reasons as you will be ignoring all mechanical facts and figures in doing so.

To play the real devils advocate though, if we're talking purely which is a better 'cruiser' in a factual sense. Ride an HD, ride a Victory. Then with a clear head swing your leg over a Boulevard M109 followed by a Vulcan Mean streak.

[FJRider]

This is why Harleys do not evolve.... because of their riders...

But I do Like the fact that a stock american Crusier with Apehangers is faster than the "mighty" V-Rod. and IMHO look a whole lot better too.

I HAVE seen a V-Rod with (high) ape's fitted. Would that make it faster then ... ???

Perhaps evolvement the rider(s) concerned would be more of a concern ...

[skippa1]

I like the Victory range because they use the S&S motors.

where the fuck did you get that gem? The Freedom is a Victory engine not S&S. S&S make bolt on parts, stroking and cam kits as after market accessories but, they dont make the Freedom

[AD345]

I like the Victory range because they use the S&S motors.

Wot??

Back to school for you laddie. No relationships whatsoever exist between Victory and S&S. Victory's are powered by their own engines designed and built entirely in-house.

From the Hammer 92ci to today's Freedom 106ci Victory engines go in to Victory bikes

[scumdog]

where the fuck did you get that gem? The Freedom is a Victory engine not S&S. S&S make bolt on parts, stroking and cam kits as after market accessories but, they dont make the Freedom

Maybe he was trollin'? _ I hope so!

[skippa1]

Maybe he was trollin'? _ I hope so!

he wouldnt be that cruel.......would he?

[Monkfish]

I HAVE seen a V-Rod with (high) ape's fitted. Would that make it faster then ... ???

Perhaps evolvement the rider(s) concerned would be more of a concern ...

Nope missed the point entirely. I was trying to insinuate that a bike clearly designed for the bobber market (apehangers, and whitewall's etc) and not for speed is still faster than the V-rod which is HD's best attempt at a speedy bike.

Thus proving that HD's evolutionary progress was more akin to a ceramic brick, rather than a Motorcycle manufacturer.

[The Lone Rider]

bobber market (apehangers, and whitewall's etc)

... that is not a bobber. nor looks like one.l

[scumdog]

Nope missed the point entirely. I was trying to insinuate that a bike clearly designed for the bobber market (apehangers, and whitewall's etc) and not for speed is still faster than the V-rod which is HD's best attempt at a speedy bike.

Thus proving that HD's evolutionary progress was more akin to a ceramic brick, rather than a Motorcycle manufacturer.

Meh.. riders of V-Rods (and other H-D products) most likely don't give a fat rats arse...tell 'em all the things 'wrong' with Harleys and they'd still buy them.

So would owners of Suzukis, Ducatis, Beemers or whatever brand you pick, most would still buy the brand they liked.

[Zamiam]

Meh.. riders of V-Rods (and other H-D products) most likely don't give a fat rats arse...tell 'em all the things 'wrong' with Harleys and they'd still buy them.

Wash your mouth out sir

There is nothing wrong with Harleys -they are antiquated pieces of shit BUT we love them

[Monkfish]

... that is not a bobber. nor looks like one.l

Weather it is a true bobber or not, is most definitley up for debate. And I aggree that is is not a true bobber, however it is undeniable that it is aimed at the bobber market. (just google the highball and you will see all the Bobber references)

Also undeniable is the fact that I repeate once again. The Highball was not made for speed but is still faster than a V-Rod, which is HD's Muscle/power/speedy bike.

[AD345]

The Highball was not made for speed but is still faster than a V-Rod, which is HD's Muscle/power/speedy bike.

mmmm

As a Highball owner I would say that depends more on the rider than the bike. I've both passed and been passed by V-rods on different days and different moods

Without going to a track (which I'm not likely to ever do) I'd say it would be down to time, place and appetite for risk

Probably true of most bike v. bike match ups in a real world now I think about it