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    You lost me at, "another one of the problems......."

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    Maverick quits

    with 3 races to go and a slight chance to be world champ - Maverick Vinales has walked out of his team
    "...New Zealanders, for all their faults, have virtues that are precious: an unwillingness to be intimidated by the new, the formidable, or class systems; trust in situations where there would otherwise be none; compassion for the underdog; a sense of responsibility for people in difficulty; not undertaking to do something without seeing it through - "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve View Post
    with 3 races to go and a slight chance to be world champ - Maverick Vinales has walked out of his team
    Yeah, just read that. To be honest is sounds like he's thrown all his toys out of the cot.
    Disclaimer: I don't actually know what I'm talking about and everything I say should be taken as words of wisdom from a armchair general/mechanic/engineer/racer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tail_end_charlie View Post
    Yeah, just read that. To be honest is sounds like he's thrown all his toys out of the cot.
    don't know the full story - yet - but his team manager is also his personal manager and may have been withholding offers from other teams...
    "...New Zealanders, for all their faults, have virtues that are precious: an unwillingness to be intimidated by the new, the formidable, or class systems; trust in situations where there would otherwise be none; compassion for the underdog; a sense of responsibility for people in difficulty; not undertaking to do something without seeing it through - "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve View Post
    don't know the full story - yet - but his team manager is also his personal manager and may have been withholding offers from other teams...
    It seems like there's been a fall out with Vinales' manager too. While it seems like a hot head move - it is more like being available for a competitive (KTM) bike in 2013, as he was signed for the end of 2014 with Avintia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve View Post
    don't know the full story - yet - but his team manager is also his personal manager and may have been withholding offers from other teams...
    BINGO! Multiple offers including KTM apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    BINGO! Multiple offers including KTM apparently.




    If you were a team owner/manager, would you sign a rider that has walked out on a contract before???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    If you were a team owner/manager, would you sign a rider that has walked out on a contract before???
    Off topic I know Shaun, but I see you're in Adelaide ? Lovely city, lived there for 13 years, up Tea Tree Gully, St Agnes area.
    Been for a fang thru Chain of Ponds yet or maybe the Barrosa ? G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roogazza View Post
    Off topic I know Shaun, but I see you're in Adelaide ? Lovely city, lived there for 13 years, up Tea Tree Gully, St Agnes area.
    Been for a fang thru Chain of Ponds yet or maybe the Barrosa ? G.



    off topic reply,I am now back in New Plymouth, contract in Adelaide is finished, one of the shops owners had a heart attack, and I wanted to be closer to my daughter anyway!

    No fangs mate, I am not a road rider, just a has been road racer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleve View Post
    with 3 races to go and a slight chance to be world champ - Maverick Vinales has walked out of his team
    Listen to the discussion held by commentators and interview with Ricky Gervais (I mean Richardo) ex-Mav manager, it is a lesson that young, and not so young, riders even here can take a good lesson from.

    It may be that the team has breeched the terms of the contract, but he has taken on board some very dubious advice and acted poorly. There are much better and more professional ways to deal with the situation he feels he has found himself in.

    He could actually still win the championship (in a "second division team") if Cortese falls and hurts himself or breaks down or something else.

    Quite extraordinary.

    On another point, they did a video sweep over the bike in the garage, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wet myself....... (nice ideas for our bike)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    If you were a team owner/manager, would you sign a rider that has walked out on a contract before???
    Normally no. And that was my initial reaction too.

    If, however, it transpired that the team manager was dishonest that would surely be taken into consideration. We don't know for certain yet that the team manager was playing dirty pool, but with the amount of scrutiny this will get there's a good chance we'll find out.
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    Not good for any of them,no excuses but the bike let him down a couple of times and he made a couple of misjudgements himself

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    Not good for any of them,no excuses but the bike let him down a couple of times and he made a couple of misjudgements himself


    I guess it's a part of displaying maturuty, ala Ben Spies
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    Aleix Espargaro has also had the same Manager in the past. He doesn't speak very highly of him whatsoever apparently..

    Can't help but think he should have seen the season out though, then sorted this shit out in the off season? Guess he would have missed out on a ride in 2013 if he did perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingnut View Post
    Aleix Espargaro has also had the same Manager in the past. He doesn't speak very highly of him whatsoever apparently..

    Can't help but think he should have seen the season out though, then sorted this shit out in the off season? Guess he would have missed out on a ride in 2013 if he did perhaps.
    "Guess he would have missed out on a ride in 2013 if he did perhaps" is the key apparently. It seems that what appears as a quite unsavoury move - was in fact the BEST for him.

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