Another two-year-old toddler beaten to death

[azzanuts]

I hope that fucken punk gets fucked over by the screws. Better still, he should be delt with by the public. I'd be right at the front.

[yungatart]

true. If she had taken him to the hospital then what? What happened when she took him to the medical centre 4 days later? That should have been an even bigger risk than taking him to the hospital immediately except of course she was no longer wasted but a 4 day old break in a small kid should have had alarm bells ringing loudly. I need medical person to refute that assumption I guess.

It's not uncommon for parents to genuinely not realise children have broken arms. The pain is quite bareable if there is no displacement in the bones, and even when there is, it aint that bad. Four days after the fact probably doesn't raise an eyebrow, provided the mother or father that brings the kid in, doesn't look strung out to fuck, and incapable of a coherant story.

So, we shant go blaming the health proffessionals, because a lot of them are fuckin near ready to go on a killing spree they're so frustrated with the system that ties their hands.

One of my kids had a broken collar bone for three weeks or so before I did anything about it. He was a tough little nut. He only complained when it was bath time. Bath time was followed pretty quickly by bed time, silly me just thought he wanted to be outside enjoying daylight saving and playing in the sunshine.
The reality was, of course, that it hurt when he lifted up his arms to have his t shirt taken off...the rest of the time he coped with the pain, and never complained.

[98tls]

Rubbish. It's not who is running NZ that is causing the issue, and if we're so "liberal" why do we have the second highest rates of incarceration in the developed world? Because people are dicks. Not the Government, not your Mum & Dad, not welfare dependency. People are dicks.

Finally.......

[98tls]

Mate - I have sat in the court rooms of this country for so fucking long .. adn I am sick of the bukllshit - from both the offenders and the lawyers - prosecuting and defence .. all lawyers ..

I've heard it all .. and I am not caught uop in the bullshit the offenders put out there ... Shoot the fuckers ... the sooner the better ...

But unfortunately shooting the fuckers only stops that person committing crimes - to stop crimes occuring we need other measures ... Shooting the fuckers is an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff answer - it works for the immediate problem but does not solve much long term ...

Fair call.I to feel your pain.What next though?

[GTRMAN]

Seriously though, your avatar is a shot from the movie 'Krull' aye?

I'm not obsessive compulsive, shit just bugs me sometimes.

Nah Dude, Dune

[Kickaha]

Fair call.I to feel your pain.What next though?

We look at the families with at risk kids and shoot them to

[GTRMAN]

It's not uncommon for parents to genuinely not realise children have broken arms. The pain is quite bareable if there is no displacement in the bones, and even when there is, it aint that bad. Four days after the fact probably doesn't raise an eyebrow, provided the mother or father that brings the kid in, doesn't look strung out to fuck, and incapable of a coherant story.

So, we shant go blaming the health proffessionals, because a lot of them are fuckin near ready to go on a killing spree they're so frustrated with the system that ties their hands.

But in this instance she declined the calling of an ambulance, had to be bad enough to think about it. And the consequences...

[Drew]

We look at the families with at risk kids and shoot them to

I'll bring the beer... And coke for the fags.

[98tls]

We look at the families with at risk kids and shoot them to

Fire away mate,the way its going some genius in the future will come up with said option though once again late.

[GTRMAN]

I say throw more money at plunket, make it mandatory, up the required visit numbers, encourage good parenting from the get go. Catch problems before they get out of hand.

Might not work but it has to be worth a try...

[007XX]

Nah Dude, Dune

Drew, seriously?? The Atreides rule the Spice man, hence the blue eyes.

[James Deuce]

I say throw more money at plunket, make it mandatory, up the required visit numbers, encourage good parenting from the get go. Catch problems before they get out of hand.

Might not work but it has to be worth a try...

They are utterly useless when it comes to dealing with proper abuse and real medical issues, as well as utterly refusing to deal with special needs kids. It would require an organisational culture change to get Plunket to do what they were formed to do in the first place now.

[98tls]

I say throw more money at plunket, make it mandatory, up the required visit numbers, encourage good parenting from the get go. Catch problems before they get out of hand.

Might not work but it has to be worth a try...

Back in the day i remember Plunket showing up with little white pills.these days.....

[GTRMAN]

They are utterly useless when it comes to dealing with proper abuse and real medical issues, as well as utterly refusing to deal with special needs kids. It would require an organisational culture change to get Plunket to do what they were formed to do in the first place now.

Sure change culture, but if the mission is to support and encourage good parenting you are at least building a fence at the top of the cliff, rather than buying a bigger ambulance.

[Ocean1]

They are utterly useless when it comes to dealing with proper abuse and real medical issues, as well as utterly refusing to deal with special needs kids. It would require an organisational culture change to get Plunket to do what they were formed to do in the first place now.

Like, actually funding them?

Jeez, dude, pretty radical...