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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    R-Soul, you're only somewhat correct.

    Some of the principles taught on the track are actually the opposite of the skills taught in advanced road riding.

    CSS and other track day tuition do allow you to get comfortable with your and your bike's abilities in a safe environment, but do nothing to teach hazard observation in the normal road environment, cornering lines are not the same and your body position on the bike will vary as well.
    Sure thats why I said that it would need some tweaking for road riding - especially the hazard observation aspect- but there is a lot to be said for knowing what your bike is capable of. I think most off's on a a corner are because people dont have faith in their bike's traction, and because they are not positioned (or did not set up their position ) for the corner correctly - to be able to apply more force to the inside bar if they need it.

    Trying to push harder on the inside bar at speed with no confidence in the traction, and while being badly positioned on the bike is a very difficult thing to do. Especially with the bike trying to stand itself up because you have grabbed a handful o' brakes to go with it.
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    It could be that I have one years experience repeated 33 times!

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    So, who has been chosen to provide the training?? Everyone picked has been notified already.

    So, nationally, who were the lucky schools??

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    Remember, that GOOD QUALITY TRAINING stays with you forever. It doesn't get sold with your bike, or expire with your rego. It stays with you FOREVER..

    It's not the message that is DELIVERED, but the message that is RECEIVED that is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia1000 View Post
    So, who has been chosen to provide the training?? Everyone picked has been notified already.

    So, nationally, who were the lucky schools??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia1000 View Post
    So, who has been chosen to provide the training?? Everyone picked has been notified already.

    So, nationally, who were the lucky schools??

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    Are you sure anyone actually got approved and picked?

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    Yes, they did. They chose only 3 schools to cover the whole country. Karel Pavich of Prorider in Tauranga, who as far as I know, really does a lot of track work. She will cover from Northland, through all of Auckland, down to Waikato. Roadsafe in Wellington will cover from Pay of Plenty down south, to the north of the south Island, and then down the west coast of the South Island. And Dan Orsmby will cover the southland.
    It has taken ACC SIX MONTHS to make this decision!!!
    None of the Auckland schools were picked!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    Are you sure anyone actually got approved and picked?
    Remember, that GOOD QUALITY TRAINING stays with you forever. It doesn't get sold with your bike, or expire with your rego. It stays with you FOREVER..

    It's not the message that is DELIVERED, but the message that is RECEIVED that is important.

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    Why on earth would you not pick someone based in the most populated center?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    Why on earth would you not pick someone based in the most populated center?
    Because they cost more and you are looking or someone to cover an area not a city, perhaps.
    Why would you have one company covering both the lower North and upper South Islands? Unless the company has bases in both places already, that is.
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    I don't know. There is a perfectly good instructor in the north of the South Island. But it seems they wanted to keep their paperwork to a minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Because they cost more and you are looking or someone to cover an area not a city, perhaps.
    Why would you have one company covering both the lower North and upper South Islands? Unless the company has bases in both places already, that is.
    Remember, that GOOD QUALITY TRAINING stays with you forever. It doesn't get sold with your bike, or expire with your rego. It stays with you FOREVER..

    It's not the message that is DELIVERED, but the message that is RECEIVED that is important.

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    See this thread. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ders-announced


    According to the auckland providers website you need to do a fully paid for course on a closed track (no insurance?) before you can do the ACC funded course......

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    Auckland needs its own provider. The regional ones should cover the regions and Auckland training should be distinct from the regional trainers.
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    Why do I get the feeling this will just push up the ACC levy in my rego fees even more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JafaSaffer View Post
    Why do I get the feeling this will just push up the ACC levy in my my rego fees even more?
    Because you're exceptionally good looking and clever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Auckland needs its own provider. The regional ones should cover the regions and Auckland training should be distinct from the regional trainers.
    It's designed to fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    It's designed to fail.
    I rather suspect you have the right of it, old chum.
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    I am going to send a email to Lindsay Johnston Lindsay Johnson MCIPS Senior Category Manager, Print and Logistics, ACC) ACC, Lindsay Johnson and ACC / Corporate Procurement / Level 11, Vogel Centre, 19 Aitken Street
    PO Box 242 / Wellington 6011 / New Zealand / www.acc.co.nz, also
    Sara Hay, Corporate Procurement Manager, on 04 816 5471 or 027 6866672.
    this is our acc money, and I think they are wasting it. We deserve a say in this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricia1000 View Post
    Yes, they did. They chose only 3 schools to cover the whole country. Karel Pavich of Prorider in Tauranga, who as far as I know, really does a lot of track work. She will cover from Northland, through all of Auckland, down to Waikato. Roadsafe in Wellington will cover from Pay of Plenty down south, to the north of the south Island, and then down the west coast of the South Island. And Dan Orsmby will cover the southland.
    It has taken ACC SIX MONTHS to make this decision!!!
    None of the Auckland schools were picked!!!

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