Weed legalised in 2 USA states

[onearmedbandit]

So is it the norm for marijuana consummers to abuse of other substances at the same time?

I am genuinely just asking, as it's obviously difficult to get an unbiaised data source on this.

Not amongst the very large number of cannabis smokers I know. In fact most of them avoid alcohol when smoking. No doubt though there are a large number who choose to do so, but as scummy points out it's not the cannabis that causes the issues, it's the other drugs.

[scumdog]

So then the cannabis really has nothing to do with what they're doing.

Possibly

But it shows a pattern of behavior and mind-set.

There's probably grass smokers that are the equal of single-malt whiskey connosiuers - they can have a quite one with no bother to anybody.

But I don't meet too many of them...

[onearmedbandit]

There's probably grass smokers that are the equal of single-malt whiskey connosiuers - they can have a quite one with no bother to anybody.

But I don't meet too many of them...

Yes you do. Every day in fact. You just don't recognise them.

[scumdog]

Yes you do. Every day in fact. You just don't recognise them.

Sort of how I don't recognise paedophiles etc??

(Ya know what I meant when I said I don't 'meet' too many off them!)

[onearmedbandit]

Sort of how I don't recognise paedophiles etc??

(Ya know what I meant when I said I don't 'meet' too many off them!)

I knew exactly what you meant. However your claim of 'probably' was what caught my eye. I was merely pointing out that there are lots of us.

[SMOKEU]

Yeah, it's not like everyone who tokes up is going to admit it to every police officer they ever encounter on an unrelated matter.

[scissorhands]

Instead of smoking cannabis, try infusing into milk and have with espresso or tea.
I then take sub-lingually, sipping VERY slowly over 20 minutes, with a lid on the cup to keep warm

Its a very easy and pleasant alternative.
Just be careful potentiating caffeine by sub lingual sipping, make a weak cup

[Road kill]

So is it the norm for marijuana consummers to abuse of other substances at the same time?

I am genuinely just asking, as it's obviously difficult to get an unbiaised data source on this.

No idea what "norm" is but about twice a month I drop in on an old mate an have a couple of tokes,but I don't drink at all now days.

My old mate tends to have a couple of beers at the same time.

I don't really get your "abuse" comment though,because I don't abuse weed and my mate doesn't abuse either weed or alcohol.

I actually think you'd have a very hard time finding an "average or a norm" to either smokers or drinkers.

My own belief is that some people smoke,drink,use P,eat whole packets of nutmeg or morning glory seeds or what ever else rocks their boat because they were already fucked up before they went down that particular road,,,,,but the much larger majority of smokers and drinkers are simply not abusing anything and don't suffer any ill effect from what their doing.

As for unbiased,I guess you could vist the NORML web site a read their comments on responsible use,,or you could read Scum dogs rants about how every smoker he meets is a scum bag loser.

Consider the source,an then make up your own mind on who's view is unbalanced.

Good luck with that aye.

[Road kill]

So there we go, it's not the cannabis causing the problem, it's the combination of other drugs/poisons, most likely alcohol I'm guessing.

Hope you never try to challenge the law with that argument.

No wonder so many anti weed types think all smokers are stupid

[scumdog]

Yeah, it's not like everyone who tokes up is going to admit it to every police officer they ever encounter on an unrelated matter.

You would be surprised how many do.

Except for the paranoid ones that is...

[scumdog]

My own belief is that some people smoke,drink,use P,eat whole packets of nutmeg or morning glory seeds or what ever else rocks their boat because they were already fucked up before they went down that particular road,,,,,but the much larger majority of smokers and drinkers are simply not abusing anything and don't suffer any ill effect from what their doing.

As for unbiased,I guess you could vist the NORML web site a read their comments on responsible use,,or you could read Scum dogs rants about how every smoker he meets is a scum bag loser.

The first paragraph I agree 100%

The second one I take umbrage with

Add 'work related' after 'every' and you would be somewhere near the mark.

Although lately it's been the pimply-faced oiks that are K2 smokers that come to notice.

[scissorhands]

Although lately it's been the pimply-faced oiks that are K2 smokers that come to notice.

That stuff is unsafe. For anyone prone to anxiety, or especially someone near a psychotic breakdown, even only a few days use such as I tried, I experienced some difficulties.
For anyone with underlying conditions ie: a nut job, it can be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Fittingly, anyone suffering these products negative effects would do well to partake of real cannabis for a few days/weeks.
The real McCoy is detoxifying and nerve settling. Real cannabis will accelerate reduction of synthetic cannabis behaviours.... and immediately treat and mitigate neurotic behaviours, till anxiety producing residues are finally excreted.

The minister has dragged his feet in this area of concern for kids, still in dairys

[unstuck]

Most of the people who are anti dope that I meet have never even tried it, weird. I really get the whole dole bludging,tinny house, playstation playing, pajama wearing , hate thing going on tho, cause I feel the same way about that part of society too. Not all people who like to smoke a little weed every now and then are like that.

[BoristheBiter]

no

a. what about as long as they (users of alcohol and other intoxicating substances) dont harm society and the populace at large do you not understand

So where do you draw the line? some do P, coke etc without causing problems

a. controlled and supervised, will prevent abuse, take it away from the gangs and other organised crime

What, like alcohol and tobacco are supervised now? what do you think caused the mass influx of P? gangs where going to loose revenue from dope.

b. keeping drugs such as weed at the same legal level as alcohol, does not translate into 'everything should be legal

So again, where do you draw the line?

c. if it makes money in a capitalistic society there is no problem....this has been proven many many times, re: Cigarettes, very addictive, available everywhere, highly deadly but oh dear taxed to the hilt. everythime a pack gets sold the tax man smiles.

Never said I agreed with that it was your statment.

i am aware that my english sometimes is funney and phonetically, and yes I am fluent in germlish. But it appears that you can't read and understand plain english. So please Mr. Biter, sharpen your theeth and try again.


Bored now.

I see the worst side of most things and the bad side of drugs is pretty bad and making dope legal is not going to change that.

[BoristheBiter]

Most of the people who are anti dope that I meet have never even tried it, weird. I really get the whole dole bludging,tinny house, playstation playing, pajama wearing , hate thing going on tho, cause I feel the same way about that part of society too. Not all people who like to smoke a little weed every now and then are like that.

I'm not anti dope, just anti dope smokers