MotoGP 2012

**Crasherfromwayback** · 13th November 2012, 09:55

Originally Posted by roogazza

He was pleased with his setting for the wet but the dry bike was a mile off. Would have been nice to see rain the whole way.
But hey it's all history now, just like that other guy that rode a honda. What was his name , Tracy something or other ? lol.

Worlds best development rider eh.

Yeah Tracy. The guy on the podium. Not behind CRT bikes Tracy.

**roogazza** · 13th November 2012, 10:12

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Worlds best development rider eh.

Yeah Tracy. The guy on the podium. Not behind CRT bikes Tracy.

I know, I saw him on the podium and the after race interviews.
One last chance to bleat. He just can't take defeat, well he can , it's just the way he does it.
Adrianna must have to give him a slap every now and then.
He'll get a lesson if he tries driving cars, some aussie will swot him.

**Mental Trousers** · 13th November 2012, 10:15

Originally Posted by imdying

It's competition, why the heck would I want to share the fruits of my development dollar/labour? All open source would do is stagnate development.

If nobody makes any contribution then nobody makes any progress at all.

Originally Posted by imdying

Which one of these things is an ECU used in a competitive environment? Linux... used by nobody but people who want free server software or an OS that can strip back for some specific task. Sure open source has a few poster child products, but really it's just used for niche and/or unprofitable dev by collaboration.

Sure I do; anytime I need an unsupported flakey product for no dollars, it's the first place I turn.

OpenRISC is the most notable Open Source Hardware. It's been out there for quite a while now and is used very successfully in a whole bunch of products in the commercial world, although not in PC's etc as RISC designs have generally lost out to the ix86 architecture.

Btw, linux is used by many of the biggest companies on the planet for many of their internal systems, goobuntu from Google, Oracle Linux from Oracle and plenty others if I stopped to think about it.

The business world is every bit as competitive as any race environment.

Originally Posted by imdying

Turning it into a hippy love in is not going to help MotoGP.

On the contrary, Open Source between the teams can push things along quite significantly. Because everyone benefits the level of competitiveness of the entire field is raised. At the moment the factories have money and resources to throw at the things but the other teams don't. Open Sourcing means the other teams then have a pool of knowledge, expertise and ability that they don't otherwise have access to.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 13th November 2012, 10:18

Originally Posted by roogazza

I know, I saw him on the podium and the after race interviews.
One last chance to bleat. He just can't take defeat, well he can , it's just the way he does it.
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Pretty sure your guy would (as he has all season) bleat too mate. It's just that they only interview the guys on the podium eh! Still...he's gone snivelling back to Yamaha now...so will maybe beat those pesky CRT's now.

**Mental Trousers** · 13th November 2012, 10:27

Did they ask Kats any questions at the interview for the podium finishers?? I saw they talked to Casey and Dani but didn't see if they talked to Kats at all.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 13th November 2012, 10:38

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

Did they ask Kats any questions at the interview for the podium finishers?? I saw they talked to Casey and Dani but didn't see if they talked to Kats at all.

Dunno. I'm just winding Roogazza up cause his mate can do no wrong! Awesome effort by Kats though. Shit...when was the last time a wildcard put it on the podium? Abe?

**GD66** · 13th November 2012, 10:38

He no speak Engrish.

But there's a translation in the Soup summary.

Bloody awesome ride, on top of an excellent outing at Motegi where he raced Hayden to the line. Kinda annoyed they never gave him a gallop at Phillip Island with Spies out. Hopefully we see a bit more of him, perhaps surprisingly the fine second spot brought out a wave of raw emotion from both him and his crew, great tv.

**Mental Trousers** · 13th November 2012, 10:40

Originally Posted by GD66

He no speak Engrish.

But there's a translation in the Soup summary.

So they did then? Guess they just chopped it out of the coverage I saw cos there wasn't any English translation on hand or something.

Good effort by him. He's kicking arse recently, excepting Suzuka of course

**denill** · 13th November 2012, 10:53

Originally Posted by roogazza

He just can't take defeat, well he can , it's just the way he does it.
Adrianna must have to give him a slap every now and then.

Hey Gaz, your mate could give Tracy a few lessons on how to take defeat. He's got pretty good at it over the last infamous two years.

**Drew** · 13th November 2012, 14:22

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

Did they ask Kats any questions at the interview for the podium finishers?? I saw they talked to Casey and Dani but didn't see if they talked to Kats at all.

Originally Posted by Mental Trousers

So they did then? Guess they just chopped it out of the coverage I saw cos there wasn't any English translation on hand or something.

Yeah, I saw his statement on the coverage. I'll paraphrase for you.

HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK. I had a great race, was slippery, I came second, I just made Spies my BITCH!

**Drew** · 13th November 2012, 14:30

He really was screwed from the onset with Ducati. I honestly thought that Burgess and Rossi would sort out the bike. Reasons they couldn't are quite well documented.

But to imply he is a shit development rider is not fair.

He's also got nothing but a big cliff to fall off if he can't put the Yamaha on the podium, and his age is certainly against him there.

**Mental Trousers** · 13th November 2012, 14:30

Originally Posted by Drew

Yeah, I saw his statement on the coverage. I'll paraphrase for you.

HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK. I had a great race, was slippery, I came second, I just made Spies my BITCH!

That's exactly what I was expecting from a excitable Japanese rider who just kicked arse.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 13th November 2012, 14:39

Originally Posted by Drew

He really was screwed from the onset with Ducati. I honestly thought that Burgess and Rossi would sort out the bike. Reasons they couldn't are quite well documented.

But to imply he is a shit development rider is not fair.

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Drew. That's for all of the Stoner haters that claimed it was all his fault the bike was shit as he obviously couldn't either develop or setup a race bike. Guess they're looking pretty fucking stoopid about now. Rossi IS one of the best ever I'm sure. But even he and Burgess couldn't sort it within two full seasons. Kinda not really Stoners fault anymore eh.

**Drew** · 13th November 2012, 15:02

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Drew. That's for all of the Stoner haters that claimed it was all his fault the bike was shit as he obviously couldn't either develop or setup a race bike. Guess they're looking pretty fucking stoopid about now. Rossi IS one of the best ever I'm sure. But even he and Burgess couldn't sort it within two full seasons. Kinda not really Stoners fault anymore eh.

Full credit to Stoner. He was the only guy that could ride the Ducati.

Stoner is not a development rider, I don't think anyone would argue that. But to say the bike was shit and it's Stoners fault is as unfair, as saying Rossi is shit at it.