mini meeeeeee
Hey at least any offender has a better chance of getting off when it only takes one person to consider them innocent (for whatever reason); if it was left to one person to decide their fate the odds lessen considerably. At least the jury are there to hear what is put before them in a court of law (and that does mean something to most people) rather than relying on media reports, or the almighty kiwibiker jury.Originally Posted by Akzle
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Katman to steveb64
Coal Burning XV Rider!
Well I'll be, good answer . I to would simply execute the "guilty" party for exactly the same reasons.
Your take on having an opinion because you have opted out intrigues me.
You are right about the game, it is not aligned to make anything fair or right for us this country's citizens, it is all about making the entire system pay and keep paying and if you can't pay you go down.
Unless of course you've committed multiple offences against society, have committed more crimes while on bail and have amassed a record longer than most peoples arm.
Then naturally you get a QC, legal aid and of course welfare.
Whats wrong with this scenario?
It only applies if you've let yourself go down the slippery slope and become a genuine menace to society, not about your colour, your upbringing, your circumstance, all about your personal attitude to life and others ability to be bullied, robbed , beaten or killed if it suits you.
Time these sorts were removed permanently.
But, who's going to do it?
Who is qualified to do it?
Ah, yes, that's right, our present society can't let an aggrieved relative take the necessary steps to help our collective society, that'd be stooping to their level, must be a better way? Not.
Time we let loose some of this countries most affected relatives, give them the facts, the means to do what they need to do and when it's done, make sure they're not intimidated by the usual rif raf, as happens now.
Maybe then our kids will have a chance of walking the streets in safety, cause right now even in broad daylight it is not safe because we've failed to send the message, fuck with us and we will bury you.
The collective we of course with the full sanctioning and support of the Police and the actual backing of the politicians and lastly the legal system, it is this particular institution that is failing us the most and in dazzlingly spectacular fashion.
Stupid decisions that allow innocent people to be murdered by animals that should never again see the light of day. Let out by people ( um judges are people?) who live in worlds so different from most of us that they really and truely don't know what happens to a neighbour who stands up to a gang member ( U no, the guy who's found dead in his car with shotgun blast to the head, for being a straight up guy) or what happens when you let a convicted, but not yet sentenced killer out on bail and he gets to close to his/her ( no sexism here) ex.
Dislike the Police for being under the direct thumb of the ruling party,( thanks comrade helen), dislike their hard nosed attitude to career crims and anything that looks like one, but don't blame them for letting these animals out to do their thing.
They'd throw away the key in a heart beat if they were allowed and most often they'd get it right.
We need to actively support them against the judicial system and their political masters to let them know that most of us want them out there between the animals and us and will go to their aid if they are attacked.
In return though we should have a perfect right to expect that they treat ordinary citizens with courtesy and respect, I've had many occasions where I've spoken with and or been spoken to by Police. Most have been amicable and friendly, some however were downright rude, overbearing and totally out of touch with reality, these ones need taking out as much as any of the crims they're there to protect against.
Every day above ground is a good day!:
Trying to be a good dog
It takes a lot of practise and verification with personal questions afterwards.
Then once you establish a reasonable strike rate, one can be more sure of an initial appraisal with no questions.
I include borderline examples, which normally are dismissed
Certain visual markers are normally present with classic autism. Then there are non classic autisms, which are more difficult to perceive.
You need to understand that this has been a special interest of mine, for a few years, I can hyper-focus like no other if required.....picking pervasive development disorders is a hobby these last 3 years. Prior to this I have had a life long interest in personology and people typing
So, while at the old closed down Cannabis Club I would engage many punters. Also, I used to attend support group meetings at AutismNZ and also ADHD meetings at The ADHD Association. During these meetings I forego pussy riot motivations and concentrate more on listening and asking pertinent questions.
Some common visual markers are either Spock like eyebrows [downward slant near the nose] or short length eyebrows, ones that get thin [as you move outward] and peter out quickly. Compared to say an Indian or Mexican with bushy long eyebrows[opposite of autistic, normally ultra Nerotypical]
Then there is the shorter index finger, and hand shape in general. Feet, bone structure, eyes, expression.....
Many aspies and ADGHDers are of northern European origin, specifically the Germanic tribes, which includes Scandinavians, Russians and Germans. The French are kind of the opposite again, with their complicated systems of etiquette, Germans normally have poor social etiquette, no humour, uber practical....
Interestingly, socialism and Santa are a product of this region, as it excellence in design, military prowess [dont fuck with the Finns...], the manufacture of high quality goods, weapons, and lots of things high tech
So common surnames like Nelson, Nilson, Finlayson etc maybe even Lawrence too, being an old English surname. But often the 'son' on the end pricks my ears. The Scots have much Scandinavian blood, and their engineering is superb.
Its a little hit and miss. But generally certain genotypes [Germanic tribes] have autistic like sensibilities to begin with, which can emerge as a more pronounced amplified condition... now a disorder.... even if cross bred with normally non-autistic Polynesian genotypes.
It took me ages to find some Polynesian aspies or Arabs with aspergers or ADHD. They are very few. But, it can manifest out of the blue with no heritage of autistic relatives.... Possibly the few Samoans I met with the aspergers had a German relative fleeing after the war. But I believe Germans were involved in the Pacific well before WW1 or 2 and may have sown the seed in the 1800's
However early migrants to NZ during 1850's were probably unhappy at home, or the olds wanted the retards to fuck off out of their face.... many future migrants have weak family connections at home and are inclined to move and seek a better life.
In the 1800's USA east to west coast wagon trails transported those with gumption and bravery to cross the interior to a better life. ADHD features strongly amongst nomadic tribes[including Papua, Polynesia, though dark races are normally tribal with strong family bonds and interrelationships] Being restless and full of energy should really be an evolutionary strength..... but in an overly domesticated world where you have to sit still, face forward and obey, they suffer restlessness, so the doctors puts them on the crack[stimulant medication, god know why....]
I met so many ADHDers via the cannabis culture scene, so many. Cannabis appears to me to be a much better medication than crack stimulants.... Also I smoke with a group of borderline [like myself] aspies, 2 computer programmers, 2 aspie like students. All strong Germanic genetic links
Its often called the engineers disease. Think Burt Munroe, Nikola Tesla, many farmers on Country Calendar are borderline, Dan Carter[Carter being a cart man...] meaning ancestors were attracted to working with animals[bit like a old days truck driver]. Also the name Marshall and other families with links to military or in service of the lord of the land.....
Hawaii surfers family names also indicate a certain genotype. Names like Fuller, Alexander, Chapman, McIntosh, ... had upper middle class american ancestors escaping to a better life.
The propensity to drink and drugs amongst Russians, Scandinavians et al, may have a link in amplifying autistic difficulties, in a world with 90% plus equatorial genotypes.
Also if you go to an NA or AA meeting, many there are undiagnosed on the spectrum, working the 12 steps then often relapsing later, still unaware of offbeat their neurological heritage...
As stated this is a specialist area of mine... there will be many errors in these pioneered theories.
Bikers in general are well represented, especially with ADHD.
Horsemen from the past, their spawn will find pleasure riding at speed, and not conforming to the mob
Surfers too, very few Maori surf.... Why sit on your surfboard all day on your own when you can be huddled together warm with your tribe....
In the long winters of northern Europe, isolation and lack of intensive communities meant that socialising was not a function of normal daily life. Then, being able to hear a bear or wolf as it hunts you, means fine hearing, smell and sound senses will save your family line, an evolutionary strength.
Then put that same strength into a noisy equatorial type city with busy clamouring, and the strength become a weakness as you struggle to cope with the excessive stimulation, or the etiquettes common to most others of darker equatorial influences
When the Goths sacked Rome, it was the sparsely populated northerners sick and tired of excessive taxation.... I digress
Little JJ may have just been affected by cannabis in the photos, but a lack of eyebrows, sticky outy ears, his short finger, family name, and his expression of perplexed confusion which is apparent in ALL his on-line images, strongly indicates a condition of autism. Poor little guy. Having autism with that lot..... may be such a poor future, his death may have been more than what it appears.
Whew. Without the autistic genotype, inventions, science and engineering would suffer immensely.
Forum whore
Therein lies your problem, Axzle, you have strong opinions, not based upon personal knowledge coupled with a determination not to educate yourself by gaining said personal knowledge.
Unless you attend court yourself and hear and see how it is conducted, the evidence presented and how it is presented, you have no basis for your prejudice.
You also have no viable alternative to offer, which nullifies your credibility and causes people to dismiss your posts as invalid.
Criticism is given validity when it is logical, backed by facts and comes with reasonable argument on improving the case. Ideology is fine if it also addresses the reality of the situation and the practicalities of implementing the ideal.
We live in the real world whether you like it or not, so while you can claim a higher ground and pour scorn on others and the society you live in, you remain subject to it and will continue to use what you need and want to your advantage. You will also remain subject to the laws of the land in which you live whether you want to "recognise" them or not.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Forum whore
You keep smoking that weed, sonny... You'd get a big shock if you had to face reality...
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Trying to be a good dog
WTF would you know. Your involved in a paedophile paradise of a religion and sell cheap Chinese shit with 1000% markup to your mates with no conscience
You sound like the ultimate cocksucker
You dont get to be an old dog without sucking a few dicks?
Forum whore
Yup, factually incorrect on all counts as usual.Still, as long as your happy...
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
The Fedaykin
There is a difference between an interest, even a special one, and training and qualification. It is a dangerous path when the unqualified armchair psychologist starts making arbitrary diagnosis based on looking at photographs.
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion"
Trying to be a good dog
meh whatever
I can pick a retard at 100 meters
Forum whore
"You must spread..."
Bang on the money. Unfortunately it is human nature to think we are "qualified" to speak on many subjects, no more so than on KB.
Opinions are one thing, professional diagnosis is another and as long as we understand that and post accordingly we will avoid being called out on it.
My own study and research causes me to find error in his post and I could refer to qualified reference to back this up. However I doubt it would make any difference.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Anarchic Wild Child
OK OK .. he was found guilty and will go to jail ... the only question is for how long? And it wil be more than 10 years ...
END OF THREAD!
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Forum whore
LOL!!! I agree!
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
The Fedaykin
So someone one with a pervasive developmental disorder is a retard?? Yet in your words "Whew. Without the autistic genotype, inventions, science and engineering would suffer immensely"
Kinda shot yourself in the face there didn't ya
"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion"
Bogeyman
He's dead right, the two aren't mutually exclusive, quite the reverse, the autistic and even the simply very clever have never been easy company for most.
As for qualified? Got references showing your capable of distinguishing?
Thought not.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
KB's Chief Cats
since i started posting walls of green text bro! i'm like a dog. once i piss on it, it's mine!
the offender WAS found guilty "beyond reaonable doubt" that, in reality, means exactly dick.
IF he did actually kill the kid, i agree, he should own up to it and do some penance. that is not, however, for "the crown" to decide. punishing an unrepentant man makes a harder criminal at the end of the lag, eh.
the only times i have been in court and walked out with a less than ideal result was the family court regarding care of my kids (got there in the end). when i'm "sticking it to the man" i win. (3 for 3 so far)
bitter? no, paranoid, probably, delusional.. that's your title bud!
*two people, if a jury is majority, it's still a ruling. ("find"-ing)
and we don't find people innocent in this country. merely "not guilty".
it's not a "court of law" it's a court of legislation.
and yes, while they may have been apprised of everything bought before them, that doesn't mean they're enlightened.
if the court system means something to anyone, well, it's their own dumb fault and i hope they get wrung through it once or twice to see how it goes.
who is qualified for it? god. karma.
who is going to do it? whoever you vote for/allow to do it. (you get to vote for your gods, neat huh)
thing is, if the system wasn't so fucked, we might find people manning up to their crimes. (if the system was ideal, there would be no crime) instead, they resist (at the advice of their lawyer) and make it as difficult (and expensive) as possible for all concerned.
i agree with a lot of that. except where you start looking to the systems (police, courts etc) to remedy the problems.
there is no profit in the remedy. and thus you will NEVER see it, while the concept of monetary profit exists.
the police's job is to collect evidence and press charges in a court of law. in theory this is all kosher. in practice, the courts are crown courts, the lawyers are crown lawyers and the police are crown agents (conflict of interest much?)
if we had a truly independent judiciary process (a "court of law"), i'd be far more in favour of it. (of course, if we had it my way, it would be irrelevant)
however, it's the role of the police to present a case, as best they can, the role of the courts to rule on the merits of it, as it applies to crown legislation.
(this is re: "but don't blame them for letting these animals out to do their thing.")
as with you, i've had good and bad experiences with cops, if all cops were good cops, i could almost support the institution. as there are so many dickheads, and it's largely a corporate-government-revenue gathering exercise, and the fact that they have NO effect on the level of crime occurring,i do not.
i know police that want firearms law changed, marajuana law changed, road policing law changed (even our mate rasty would speed, if it weren't illegal)
but they don't have a leg to stand on. they're formed under crown legislation and are crown agents ("an instrument of the crown") thus, while this almighty crown, is making decisions about shit (profitable decisions), we will see no change.
thanks for that.
you're properly retarded, aren't ya. do me a favour and send our mate scissor hands a scan of your driver's license. i'd love to hear what he has to say about your eyebrows.
i have no objection to learning, being educated, being proved wrong.
...you're not doing any of that.
i have been in courts, i have seen the process, i've read the law and i draw the only conclusion possible: it's bullshit.
i don't care what eveidence exists, or how it's presented. the system is flawed. again, ed, you seem to be ignoring the parts of my posts you don't have an answer for.
if i can make an elephant disappear in a room full of people, does that mean i can make an elephant disappear? yes or no ed?
if i can present THAT evidence, does it mean THAT is fact?
(hint: the answer is no)
the basis for any prejudice i carry is my life up until this point.
i need to offer an alternative to make my points valid? man, what do they smoke at your church bro?!?
so, because i can say "not-beating a child to death" is a better alternative than "beating a child to death", that's a valid point?
you don't think "not beating a child to death" is valid in and of itself?
"criticism is only valid... with argument for improving the case" - horseshit.
dsmiss me all you like, infact, please do, i don't think you have the mental capacity to get any kind of handle on what i'm preaching.
as a god-fan, you talk to me of practicalities and implementing the ideal?
i LIVE the ideal. my ideal (said it before, sorry everyone who isn't thick as pigshit):
1- DO NO HARM TO PERSON OR PROPERTY
2- TELL THE TRUTH
fucken easy eh? replace the 11, 000 bits of crown law with those two and you simplify the court system (and put a whole lot of swindlers //sorry, lawyers, on the dole...)
and while we're at it, close the borders and do away with this "money"(debt) usurious crap.
what's impractical about that?
all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others eh...
you realise that wasn't me, eh?Yup, factually incorrect on all counts as usual.
and you'd be right at the top of that list eh ed?
but of course, you're so morally superior you couldn't possibly condescend to back up anything you say with fact. ("because it wont wake a difference")
rolled the dice... sentenced to 7 years, serves 4. no buttsex in jail. found not guilty 2 years later.
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