Best bike for newbie with money no barrier?

**newhere** · 1st November 2012, 22:52

Originally Posted by mrcamel

Thanks for all the constructive feedback guys!

before i buy the first bike i note with interest the point made that a few hours on an offroad bike will do a lot then a GN or scorpio. So i have decided that i will look around to see if there are any learner centres that offer just this once i have my L ......im thining to spend 3-4 weekends for a few hours hiring an offroad bike (once on learners) , and then buy the road bike...

And In terms of the road bike I have decided to look for a VTR250.

It is naked which you all seem to reccomend I will be glad to have got in case of any drops etc.... and is priced only at $3.5k so pretty reasonable i think?? and also is only $1k higher then the scorpios that i see on trademe with better looks and performance....

Still keen to hear if i should stay away from the VTR for any reason....and what places people know off that do offroad biking for learners.....and also if my approach isnt sound...

Fuck, I should have read this thread backwards, I feel totally ripped off, you got to this conclusion without my belated recommendation!

**Akzle** · 1st November 2012, 23:39

Originally Posted by newhere

Me, me, me - happened right behind me, scared the fucking shit out of me, crunnnnnnccccccccchhhyyyyyyy metal sound look in mirror, bike sliding... that boy was warming his tires on extreme angles.....

not as warm as he thought, huh

**The_Duke** · 2nd November 2012, 00:07

+1 on Honda VTR

A VT250 Spada or VT250F would be even better as they develop 40hp as opposed to 20 odd on the VTR... getting a touch long in the tooth but great little bikes.

Got my VT from Jono http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ghlight=vt250f for only $685.... 20,000 kms, 2 sets of tyres, 4 oil changes later and this bike is the best money I`ve ever spent.

**GrayWolf** · 2nd November 2012, 00:19

Originally Posted by ducatilover

'Zuki GS500f or N
Kawasaki GPZ500/EX500

Basically got it covered.
Why spend big money on a stupid overrated Ninja 300 or wheezy CBR250 single.

Coz the CBR250 or da Nunja are da schizzzzzzz. all me mates wiv FSZRXPY250's tell me so, an thay mst be rite, thay RIDE 250's, u dunt!!

**ducatilover** · 2nd November 2012, 00:37

Originally Posted by GrayWolf

Coz the CBR250 or da Nunja are da schizzzzzzz. all me mates wiv FSZRXPY250's tell me so, an thay mst be rite, thay RIDE 250's, u dunt!!

Call me a dunt again bru and I'll push your shitty Kwasucky over! I could smash you on my ZXRBRFZGSXRRRRRRRRRRRRR250RRRRRRRRRRRR it goes to 19 on the thing man

**Svengaar** · 30th November 2012, 00:14

Keeping the thread on track somewhat (even though the VTR conclusion has already been reached...) I'm kind of in the same boat as the OP. Thinking about getting the KTM Duke 200 though as I'm pretty damn small (65kgs 170cm).

Got my licence a few months back and have test ridden the CBR250 and the babyduke thus far. The CBR was fine but seemed to lack the excitment factor. The babyduke was a hell of a lot more fun (and looks bloody nice) although price wise it's getting up there with the Ninja300 especially if you replace the crappy stock tyres. The VTR is definitely a solid choice but thought I'd go for something a different to the usual noobbike.

Still need to test ride some more bikes before making a decision but was wondering what people think of the Duke?

**haydes55** · 30th November 2012, 22:57

Originally Posted by Svengaar

Keeping the thread on track somewhat (even though the VTR conclusion has already been reached...) I'm kind of in the same boat as the OP. Thinking about getting the KTM Duke 200 though as I'm pretty damn small (65kgs 170cm).

Got my licence a few months back and have test ridden the CBR250 and the babyduke thus far. The CBR was fine but seemed to lack the excitment factor. The babyduke was a hell of a lot more fun (and looks bloody nice) although price wise it's getting up there with the Ninja300 especially if you replace the crappy stock tyres. The VTR is definitely a solid choice but thought I'd go for something a different to the usual noobbike.

Still need to test ride some more bikes before making a decision but was wondering what people think of the Duke?

The Duke looks the sex. All reviews from it positive. However I wouldn't buy one at the moment because apparently they are making a bigger duke that still falls within the constraints of LAMs. Depends how long you want to wait.

**Drew** · 2nd December 2012, 08:53

Originally Posted by haydes55

The Duke looks the sex. All reviews from it positive. However I wouldn't buy one at the moment because apparently they are making a bigger duke that still falls within the constraints of LAMs. Depends how long you want to wait.

390 Duke or some such. Bloody great hoons bike.

**nodrog:Me** · 2nd December 2012, 10:17

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Get something naked. Not trying to be negative, but most learners drop/crash their bikes at some point. All those shiny fairings just make the lessons more expensive to learn.

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Get something naked. Not trying to be negative, but most learners drop/crash their bikes at some point. All those shiny fairings just make the lessons more expensive to learn.

I'm pretty sure engine cases and frames cost more than pieces of plastic.

BTW are you going to take all the doors and panels off your ute while you are learning to drive it?

**Subike** · 2nd December 2012, 10:34

Originally Posted by nodrog

I'm pretty sure engine cases and frames cost more than pieces of plastic.

BTW are you going to take all the doors and panels off your ute while you are learning to drive it?

I bet there are a few boy racer wannabees who wished they took the spoilers skirts and wings off of their lowered shit boxes before they learnt what a speed hump was for. Sorry your argument does not even come close to being relevant. As for engine cases and frames, most learner offs will be from low speed spills, most learner bikes might loose a bit of trim,. but most nakeds can be righted and ridden home minus the indicators a twisted set of bars and no foot pegs. A full faired sprot bike? A clip-on rammed into a tank, mashed in with the fairings, with no pegs or foot controls is a trailer job.

**nodrog:Me** · 2nd December 2012, 10:36

Originally Posted by Subike

I bet there are a few boy racer wannabees who wished they took the spoilers skirts and wings off of their lowered shit boxes before they learnt what a speed hump was for. Sorry your argument does not even come close to being relevant. As for engine cases and frames, most learner offs will be from low speed spills, most learner bikes might loose a bit of trim,. but most nakeds can be righted and ridden home minus the indicators a twisted set of bars and no foot pegs. A full faired sprot bike? A clip-on rammed into a tank, mashed in with the fairings, with no pegs or foot controls is a trailer job.

I see you is an expert, my apologies.