Advice wanted about restricted licence laws

[al.]

Ummmm ....

I found this in the Land Transport Act 1998:


91. Cancellation and reinstatement of demerit points--- (1) When 2 years have elapsed since the commission of an offence in respect of which demerit points were recorded, the entry of the points made in respect of that offence ceases to have effect in relation to the person who committed that offence; but if demerit points were recorded in respect of 2 or more offences committed by that person, the entry ceases to have effect when 2 years have elapsed since the commission of the most recent of those offences.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...Demerit+Points

interesting, although my points were issued due to separate offences (and i rang ltnz the other day and got the different dates on which they fall off)

[FJRider]

interesting, although my points were issued due to separate offences (and i rang ltnz the other day and got the different dates on which they fall off)

I just rang LTNZ and the nice lady assured me ... demerit points fall off from date awarded. (when you pay the fine)

Interesting reading ...

http://www.roadsafetyinnovationaward...s/demerit.html

[Akzle]

hi folks, as a normally mostly law-adibing 45 year old citizen ((...etc))

wow.

there's this key on the right hand side of the keyboard, a big un, it has "enter" on it. you should practice using it.

as far as licence conditions - depends on the cop on the day. i've been stopped on my 750 with no licence, been "done" for no WOF, speeding and failure to present a licence, FAILURE TO DISPLAY AN L PLATE, but not riding out of class / breach of license conditions
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simple solution though: don't stop for flashing lights.

[al.]

wow.

there's this key on the right hand side of the keyboard, a big un, it has "enter" on it. you should practice using it.

as far as licence conditions - depends on the cop on the day. i've been stopped on my 750 with no licence, been "done" for no WOF, speeding and failure to present a licence, FAILURE TO DISPLAY AN L PLATE, but not riding out of class / breach of license conditions
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simple solution though: don't stop for flashing lights.

why would i have used the 'enter' button? (do some people need engineered micro rests whilst they read or something?) (i do use it to separate distinctly different points within the one post, however)

agreed, it can depend to some degree on the cop on the day, but i'm figuring on considering the maximum possible negative effect and using that to decide my actions

also not stopping for flashing lights isn't likely to be a 'simple' solution at all

cheers tho.

[nodrog:Me]

Just wear your sons of anarchy hoodie and you will be chur as!

[davereid]

91. Cancellation and reinstatement of demerit points--- (1) When 2 years have elapsed since the commission of an offence in respect of which demerit points were recorded, the entry of the points made in respect of that offence ceases to have effect in relation to the person who committed that offence; but if demerit points were recorded in respect of 2 or more offences committed by that person, the entry ceases to have effect when 2 years have elapsed since the commission of the most recent of those offences.

Yep. If you have accumulated sufficient demerits to loose your licence, you don't actually lose it until served by the NZTA. If never served, you can continue to drive legally.

So if the NZTA don't know your address, and you don't get served for two years, demerits fall away.

It may be a little inconvenient of course if served on side of road by a policeman !

[Akzle]

It may be a little inconvenient of course if served on side of road by a policeman !

i don't believe the police carry the paperwork or authority to serve you notice that you have exceeded your demerit balance.
asides, you should never accept any paperwork from them (includes "tickets", it's not like they're ever going to be handing out cheques.

the maximum possible negative effect? the cop missed the lunchtime doughnut specials and hasn't had coffee. he is going to issue an infringement notice for everything that is perceptibly (and several things speculatively) wrong with your bike, take you to the station for further questioning, take your bike keys, have your bike towed (at your final expense), have demerits added to your license, your license suspended for 28 days pending a court hearing whereby it will be revoked indefinitely because you couldn't afford a good enough lawyer, your kids will get sick, you'll get pulled over driving them to hospital and get locked up, they'll get taken to cyfs, your wife will leave you for this (and end up with sole custody), your dog will get hit by the rubbish truck, they won't collect your rubbish, the council will issue a notice and fine for roadside littering, the bank will foreclose your mortgage on account of the wife leaving and council harrassment and you not making payments because you're in jail... and you'll get bum raped in prison while awaiting sentencing.

or. you're kimdotcom welathy and can afford to make an ass of the cops, lawyers, politicians and whole system entirely.

got ca$h?

[FJRider]

Yep. If you have accumulated sufficient demerits to loose your licence, you don't actually lose it until served by the NZTA. If never served, you can continue to drive legally.

So if the NZTA don't know your address, and you don't get served for two years, demerits fall away.

It may be a little inconvenient of course if served on side of road by a policeman !

The "Notice" they serve you is simple ...

You present your drivers license ... they say ... I'm sorry Sir/Madam, your drivers license has been cancelled due to excessive demerit points. Enjoy the walk home.

[duckonin]

i don't believe the police carry the paperwork or authority to serve you notice that you have exceeded your demerit balance.
asides, you should never accept any paperwork from them (includes "tickets", it's not like they're ever going to be handing out cheques.

the maximum possible negative effect? the cop missed the lunchtime doughnut specials and hasn't had coffee. he is going to issue an infringement notice for everything that is perceptibly (and several things speculatively) wrong with your bike, take you to the station for further questioning, take your bike keys, have your bike towed (at your final expense), have demerits added to your license, your license suspended for 28 days pending a court hearing whereby it will be revoked indefinitely because you couldn't afford a good enough lawyer, your kids will get sick, you'll get pulled over driving them to hospital and get locked up, they'll get taken to cyfs, your wife will leave you for this (and end up with sole custody), your dog will get hit by the rubbish truck, they won't collect your rubbish, the council will issue a notice and fine for roadside littering, the bank will foreclose your mortgage on account of the wife leaving and council harrassment and you not making payments because you're in jail... and you'll get bum raped in prison while awaiting sentencing.

or. you're kimdotcom welathy and can afford to make an ass of the cops, lawyers, politicians and whole system entirely.

got ca$h?

Hey Akzel what shit have you been into tonight ? Must be fucken good, it seems to of fucked your head !!!!

[Akzle]

Hey Akzel what shit have you been into tonight ? Must be fucken good, it seems to of fucked your head !!!!

these fucken spike's red. barley ale. damn good drop. plus i haven't had my smokes on me all day, and didn't have coffee this morning. it's been one of those days.

DID however, get about 25 pound of sugar snaps this season.

[rastuscat]

Hey Akzel what shit have you been into tonight ? Must be fucken good, it seems to of fucked your head !!!!

Personally hadn't noticed much difference. Just the usual Akzle stuff.

[Danzano]

why would i have used the 'enter' button? (do some people need engineered micro rests whilst they read or something?)

Awesome

Lmfao

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[helbnd]

I speed read this so apologies if it's been said before...

To the OP, you say you have 40 demerits left?

Last time I was ticketed for breach of license I was advised that the associated demerit points value was 35... This does not leave you with much leeway at all.

I also missed out thanks to the recent legislation and had to decide if it was worth getting a bigger bike when my zxr gave up the ghost or stick within the realms of learner legal. I stuck with a learner bike - at 100 dollars the fine is pitiful but those demerits add up real quick and i really like having a license

[Dangsta]

interesting, although my points were issued due to separate offences (and i rang ltnz the other day and got the different dates on which they fall off)

Hey Al
Why don't you just pop down to the cop shop and ask them what the worst possible infringement could be for your situation? Surely they'd be the best people to ask and its certainly quicker than going onto the KB forum or trying to interpret complex legislation.
You're welcome.