ABS the question

**Big Dave** · 6th December 2012, 18:40

Like most things it depends on the vehicle.
My Chook chaser - not really, the Street Glide? Yes please.

I've had ABS save my test-bike bacon.
I've crashed on bikes without it - that wouldn't have crashed if it had it.

A Good thing.

**Mr. Peanut** · 6th December 2012, 18:40

I forgot how upset people get on here, when you express an opinion on a topic...

**pzkpfw** · 6th December 2012, 18:41

Current Bandit is same price with and without. I'd buy the one with.

(In the current SuzukiSummerFestWhateverItsCalled the non-ABS one gets a Yoshimura that the ABS one doesn't.)

**Edbear** · 6th December 2012, 18:44

Originally Posted by Katman

Says the queer fuck who's too scared to ride a motorcycle.

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

I forgot how upset people get on here, when you express an opinion on a topic...

Don't worry about Katman, he's just a silly little sad sack and wrong again on all counts as usual. He's just got his panties in a twist over me and tries to sound off. Unfortunately for him he can only fool himself.

**Mr. Peanut** · 6th December 2012, 18:46

Originally Posted by Edbear

Don't worry about Katman, he's just a silly little sad sack and wrong again on all counts as usual. He's just got his panties in a twist over me and tries to sound off. Unfortunately for him he can only fool himself.

I meant you homo...

**Edbear** · 6th December 2012, 18:48

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

I meant you homo...

Whatever made you think I was upset about anything?

**Edbear** · 6th December 2012, 18:50

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

I meant you homo...

Oh, by the way, don't you know it's not PC to call someone a homo these days, you will upset the fragile egos on here. Naturally you're wrong anyway, but maybe being wrong doesn't faze you either?

**Big Dave** · 6th December 2012, 18:53

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

I meant you homo...

Says the guy who used to carry a cane.

**Usarka** · 6th December 2012, 18:55

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Says the guy who used to carry a cane.

http://youtu.be/rX0F3kY3uxU

**Mr. Peanut** · 6th December 2012, 18:58

Sorry girlfriend, I don't do catfights.

My opinion is still that ABS would just be a disruption to my 'Oh shit' reflexes. I have all the ABS I need in my cerebellum and right hand.

**caspernz** · 6th December 2012, 19:00

ABS wasn't an option when I bought my current bike, but the next one will have ABS, no doubt about that.

Have had cars and trucks with ABS for years, and yep it pays for itself.

In all fairness there are situations, such as an unloaded truck on a wet road, where incorrect use of the brakes will cause the ABS to lengthen the stopping distance. As with anything, a bit of training is the key.

Anyone who reckons they can do better than an ABS equipped vehicle, all the time...are just kidding themselves

**paturoa** · 6th December 2012, 19:12

I've got ABS and it is one of the main reasons I chose this bike.

I consider myself to have average skills, though I do over 20ks each year on the 'cycle. So the reason I went for ABS is that when shit happens (when, rather than if) and I reaction brake, then I'm hoping that ABS will prevent front wheel lock up and the resulting bin.

**Edbear** · 6th December 2012, 19:16

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

Sorry girlfriend, I don't do catfights.

My opinion is still that ABS would just be a disruption to my 'Oh shit' reflexes. I have all the ABS I need in my cerebellum and right hand.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I sincerely hope you never have to test your opinion in a real situation.

Did you read the links I posted? They were from very experienced and respected riders/racers doing real-world testing. One also has to ask why the manufacturers are endeavouring to make ABS standard fitment on all motorcycles and spending squillions on making it work well.

If it wasn't a real safety advantage they would refer to spend the dosh on other things.

I grew up with cable brakes, (yes in cars as well), no seatbelts, wayward steering and an acute lack of handling and power on narrow gravel roads. Bikes using spaghetti for their frames and drum brakes that wouldn't survive one panic stop. Pogo springs for suspension and too much power for their own good. Okay some had very little power, like the B31 BSA and the Bantam, but all that meant was you fell off/crashed at a lower speed.

Now my new car has every aid available to avoid crashing, ABS, EBD, EBA, ESC, Traction control, 7 airbags, pretensioner seatbelts, and the list goes on, but it is almost as much fun to drive as our '94 MX5 with only power-steering and power disc brakes. It handles like a sports car, is very fast on the road and does it all with astounding economy and comfort.

My C50T was streets ahead of any bike I've ever owned and was a great all-round ride. I'd have all the active and safety features available as they don't take away the fun factor or negate the skills required to drive/ride well. They are a good back up for those "Oops!" moments you don't expect and if you work with them increase your fun factor rather than decrease it.

**Katman** · 6th December 2012, 19:22

Originally Posted by Edbear

Bikes using spaghetti for their frames and drum brakes that wouldn't survive one panic stop. Pogo springs for suspension and too much power for their own good.

I'm still riding those same bikes.

I don't feel the slightest need for ABS.