Two motorcyclists dead - Wanaka region

[FJRider]

... Exactly my point. The speed limit is irrelevant in this situation. To say "speed was involved" is a tad simplistic.

Actually ... the corner that the accident actually happened ... can be taken at or above the speed limit. (on a motorbike anyway) With good visibility from either direction.The bikes would have had a good sweeping left-hander ... with little risk of crossing the centerline.

The bikes just arrived at the corner at the wrong time. Had they been traveling slower ...

And if they were over the speed limit ... would anything change. Would the woman face lesser charges ... ??? Would it really matter to anybody ... ???

[swbarnett]

And if they were over the speed limit ... would anything change. Would the woman face lesser charges ... ??? Would it really matter to anybody ... ???

If they were riding to the conditions it matters not what the speed limit was.

And, yes, I do consider traffic to be one of the conditions.

[Berries]

An update for those who still believe she was driving on the wrong side of the road - http://www.odt.co.nz/your-town/alexandra/238984/compassionate-response-after-drivers-guilty-plea. Any driver could have made this mistake, many do.

[scumdog]

An update for those who still believe she was driving on the wrong side of the road - http://www.odt.co.nz/your-town/alexandra/238984/compassionate-response-after-drivers-guilty-plea. Any driver could have made this mistake, many do.

Ya kinda killed the thread with that post Berries.

Too much truth & fact for K.B methinks...

[FJRider]

An update for those who still believe she was driving on the wrong side of the road .

Any driver could have made this mistake, many do.

That was all that was reported by the media. She was on the wrong side of the road when she was hit by two motorcycles. Did she not drive there ... ???

Any driver didn't ... she did.

[Coldrider]

That was all that was reported by the media. She was on the wrong side of the road when she was hit by two motorcycles. Did she not drive there ... ???

Any driver didn't ... she did.

she had lost control.

[mashman]

An update for those who still believe she was driving on the wrong side of the road - http://www.odt.co.nz/your-town/alexandra/238984/compassionate-response-after-drivers-guilty-plea. Any driver could have made this mistake, many do.

That was rather sad to read. Good on the bikers family's for not taking it out on the girl.

[FJRider]

she had lost control.

So it wasn't her fault then .. ???

[scumdog]

So it wasn't her fault then .. ???

Her level of carelessness was equal to the average Kiwis.

Only the motorbike riders were in the wrong place and out of luck that day.

Otherwise nobody would have died.

Or been badly hurt.

Some days are just plain bad days.

For somebody...

[Coldrider]

So it wasn't her fault then .. ???

what the fuck is that?, she didn't deliberately drive there, she lost control, judges words. how much control she ever had is debatable, but stick to the facts, like all KB crash posts everthing is invented that isn't known, which fulls out all the crash posts.

[MadDuck]

That was rather sad to read. Good on the bikers family's for not taking it out on the girl.

Yeah was a sad read on so many levels

Some days are just plain bad days.

For somebody...

Yes. Some days they just are. No amount of chest beating and debating will fix it.

[MD]

So it wasn't her fault then .. ???

For a change I agree with you. I rode over the Lindis Pass a few weeks ago. Can't see any reason why, if she wasn't speeding (as implied in the News) or didn't have a mechanical failure that she "lost control"

You don't just lose control of a car and drift off the seal edge for no reason. The article stated she was a young inexperienced driver with no experience driving on NZ roads. So if she wasn't capable of driving, even at a slow pace on our roads, why did she attempt it?

[Deano]

For a change I agree with you. I rode over the Lindis Pass a few weeks ago. Can't see any reason why, if she wasn't speeding (as implied in the News) or didn't have a mechanical failure that she "lost control"

You don't just lose control of a car and drift off the seal edge for no reason. The article stated she was a young inexperienced driver with no experience driving on NZ roads. So if she wasn't capable of driving, even at a slow pace on our roads, why did she attempt it?

Some people just shouldn't drive ? Not everyone has the dexterity, spatial awareness, or concentration required, but society is too PC to admit that fact.

[FJRider]

what the fuck is that?, she didn't deliberately drive there, she lost control, judges words. how much control she ever had is debatable, but stick to the facts, like all KB crash posts everthing is invented that isn't known, which fulls out all the crash posts.

Which part of my posts were not fact, she was driving (alone) ... or does losing control mean no responsibility on her (or anybody in that situation) ... for her (their) part in the accident ... ??

One act of carelessness and two bikers died ... and its ok (hugs all round) because ... "Any driver could have done it" .. ??

And in another thread ... a biker slowing for a crest of a few hills get vilified for getting the rider following him ... angry.

KB logic ... eh .. !!!

[Coldrider]

Which part of my posts were not fact, she was driving (alone) ... or does losing control mean no responsibility on her (or anybody in that situation) ... for her (their) part in the accident ... ??

One act of carelessness and two bikers died ... and its ok (hugs all round) because ... "Any driver could have done it" .. ??

And in another thread ... a biker slowing for a crest of a few hills get vilified for getting the rider following him ... angry.

KB logic ... eh .. !!!

Which part of my thread said it wasn't her fault, tosser?, she is charged with careless driving.