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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKiwi View Post
    if you want to fit them, this is not contrary to the law.
    No? I thought they were deemed "parking lights", not allowed on otherwise, wording to the effect that headlight was to be the only fwd white light also.

    Not that it made any appreciable difference to the speed mine were installed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    No? I thought they were deemed "parking lights", not allowed on otherwise, wording to the effect that headlight was to be the only fwd white light also.

    Not that it made any appreciable difference to the speed mine were installed...
    Well, so long as Mr Kiwi helps pay the court costs, I'm bunging these on after Christmas. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorbike-LE...item2a2210f989

    I'm pretty sure that if a cop decides I've left my parking lights on and tickets me thusly, I won't have hope of challenging the judgement, though I'll give it a try. Also going to get an LED taillight. The later model XJR ones fit right in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    I'm bunging these on after Christmas. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorbike-LE...item2a2210f989
    Nearly identical to the Acerbis items I put on the CR. Be very carefull with the hair-thin feed wires.

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    Thank you for the warning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKiwi View Post
    personally you might not have had an accident because of a clack of conspicuity but it is a factor in a surprising number of accidents. Yes I have personally reviewed the CAS database to satisfy myself that the numbers are robust enough to make that statement.
    Good on you. But my research* tells me that the same idiots who crash in to police cars, ambulances and fire engines with their lights AND sirens on will not be helped in their: "Sorry I did not see you" bubble by a row of LED lights, a day-glow vest or lights on 24/7. I am no buddy of Katman's and I expect we will never share a beer. But I agree with one of his statements 100%. This is the one where he states that we are all fully responsible for all and anything that happens to us on the road while on our bike. If you crash in to a old lady who came out of a side road dayglow and lights has no meaning. (If you are interested I can provide you with my take on why. One day. Maybe...). You should have expected her to be there.

    *In my years of riding I have avoided many idiots who "sorry, did not see you". In my home countris years ago the lights on all time rule was in place. Riders still died. They still did not see you. The reality is that you can legislate all you want, (And I am sure you are itching to do so) 100% of the issue still lies with the rider and his attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Poor, deluded fool.
    If you are saying I am a poor deluded fool then we are going to have to agree to disagree. A deluded fool I am not. I take care to understand real world data, limitations and all, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    No? I thought they were deemed "parking lights", not allowed on otherwise, wording to the effect that headlight was to be the only fwd white light also.

    Not that it made any appreciable difference to the speed mine were installed...
    Sorry my bad didn't make myself clear enough, they are contrary to the law at present, but I would like to see the law changed so it is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Aye, is workong now.



    Then probably the very best thing you can do to progress that end is to change the rules regarding parking/side lights WRT motorcycles to allow them to be used as running lights. Some of us have fitted them and use them anyway, we'd just prefer that the most efficacious and reasonably priced solution didn't make us 'ardened criminals, innit.

    The second best thing you can do is bulk buy LED side light kits for, say $30:00, to pluck a completely random number, and give them to anyone registering a bike.
    A bit of anti climax there but at least they're not forcing anything on us (yet). Yep, $30 is an interesting figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    That's good.
    I thought so too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKiwi View Post
    If you are saying I am a poor deluded fool then we are going to have to agree to disagree. A deluded fool I am not. I take care to understand real world data, limitations and all, do you?
    No, I'm far too thick for that. Sheep can't see in colour either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    No, I'm far too thick for that. Sheep can't see in colour either.
    To be fair, all he said was factor, not causal factor. Unfortunately, these mean the same thing to most people, and tpb often take advantage of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKiwi View Post
    I take care to understand real world data, limitations and all, do you?
    My moneys on Jim
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    Normal ratio?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
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    Normal ratio?
    Normally just below 1%. This is lower, but that is understandable as to post here you will be scrutinized. And that can at times hurt...
    Last edited by Conquiztador; 18th December 2012 at 21:31. Reason: My maths was questionable. (I even questioned it my self...) 1% is closer to the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKiwi View Post
    personally you might not have had an accident because of a clack of conspicuity but it is a factor in a surprising number of accidents. Yes I have personally reviewed the CAS database to satisfy myself that the numbers are robust enough to make that statement.
    Have you considered that, although the rider and bike were not seen, the bigger problem might just be that the rider was not educated in ways to keep themselves alive under such circumstances?
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

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