Imported stuff and customs

[Robert Taylor]

As to getting charged for gst etc etc, I have found it to be random. But becoming more likely to get stung. My experience is with bits for the bike. No Duty just the gst factor. If I have been stung for gst I have had a letter arrive rather promptly advising me of this. Then it's a case of calling an 0800 number and paying by Credit card. Then they release the item.

One time I purchased online a down puffer jacket. Got it for $95 US dollars. My mate in the states sent it over but being a paranoid Yank put the declared value at $450 US dollars from memory. I got a letter wanting something like over $200 NZ dollars for duty and Gst. I got on to them and sent them a copy of the invoice showing the correct purchase price and they released it straight away.

So for me, I have found they are always conduct business in a timely manor.

What do you mean ''to get stung''????? From the country of depatch its tax exempt so to pay tax on entry is fair enough. In case you hadnt noticed Governments need revenue streams to fund all the services that we take for granted......

[Digitdion]

Put it this way Robert. If John Key forgot to charge you gst( so to speak), and you would not be liable to pay it back( what they forgot to charge) what would you do? It's the system. It screws( again a figure of speech) a lot of people, and a lot of people benefit.

Getting stung is a figure of speech. Why don't we keep the thread on topic. There is plenty of other threads about the merits of gst collection when buying stuff from overseas.

But for the record I do buy plenty of stuff oversea's for the bike. But I still intend getting my bike up to you at the end of summer to work your magic.

[Digitdion]

What do you mean ''to get stung''????? From the country of depatch its tax exempt so to pay tax on entry is fair enough. In case you hadnt noticed Governments need revenue streams to fund all the services that we take for granted......

Forgot to mention. These days we get hit (again a figure of speech) for tax every witch way. Do you like the pun? So some stuff falling thru the cracks is not going to make that much of a difference.

Two question for you.......

1) do you really think that if everyone had paid Gst on there bike bits from oversea's that everyone would have jobs and the countries economy would be pumping?
2) and if everyone got hit for Gst on there bike bits from oversea's that everyone would simply pay over inflated prices at the local shop that when the service is quite often crap?

[bogan]

Forgot to mention. These days we get hit (again a figure of speech) for tax every witch way. Do you like the pun? So some stuff falling thru the cracks is not going to make that much of a difference.

Two question for you.......

1) do you really think that if everyone had paid Gst on there bike bits from oversea's that everyone would have jobs and the countries economy would be pumping?
2) and if everyone got hit for Gst on there bike bits from oversea's that everyone would simply pay over inflated prices at the local shop that when the service is quite often crap?

Before we get too worked up, I think his main exception was with the implied expectation. Getting stung implies you don't expect to pay, or feel you shouldn't have to pay. In reality its more like an unexpected win, ie, 'I was stoked they forgot to charge me tax this time'. You should always purchase with the expectation of paying import tax and duties, then be happy if you don't have to, that'd giving the locals an even playing field.

[Digitdion]

Before we get too worked up, I think his main exception was with the implied expectation. Getting stung implies you don't expect to pay, or feel you shouldn't have to pay. In reality its more like an unexpected win, ie, 'I was stoked they forgot to charge me tax this time'. You should always purchase with the expectation of paying import tax and duties, then be happy if you don't have to, that'd giving the locals an even playing field.

When looking to make a purchase I always figure into the purchase the cost of GST. The rest is up to ' the system'.

I do not buy into the even playing field thing. It's so much more complicated than that in this day and age. We live in a world market now. I work in Tourism. Live in Queenstown. People from all over the world come here. Queenstown is competing with any other destination in the world to attract punters. Do I complain that people want to go to Thailand for a holiday because its dirt cheap?

[Robert Taylor]

Before we get too worked up, I think his main exception was with the implied expectation. Getting stung implies you don't expect to pay, or feel you shouldn't have to pay. In reality its more like an unexpected win, ie, 'I was stoked they forgot to charge me tax this time'. You should always purchase with the expectation of paying import tax and duties, then be happy if you don't have to, that'd giving the locals an even playing field.

Thanks, youve clarified this much better than what I would have been able to. Certainly, it is obvious that with so much stuff now coming in from overseas ( privately ) it has displaced a not insignificant amount of ( failed to collect )tax revenue. How much difference that makes is of course hard to quantify. But then if any Government feels that the overall tax take is not performing so well ( and this example could well exacerbate such an issue ) then Governments will do what they do and find other ways to accrue tax revenue. The last Government was a master at it with stealth taxes.
Everyone of course wants to have their cake and eat it too.
Certainly also of course there are many bike shops with poor service ( not only bike shops ) and high prices ( but that subject is complex ) That there are way too many bike shops is a given

[slofox]

Still have had no contact from Customs - or anyone else for that matter.

So I went back to the seller...had the following reply this morning:

"Our central supplier in Brisbane is where our goods are normally shipped off from.
But today when I rang about your order I found out that they had sold out of local stock and had it sent from overseas instead.

Terribly sorry about this. No idea they would do this and not notify us first. Anyway it is currently still clearing customs in the UK.

So estimated delivery is about a week or so away."

Of the four things I have brought in from overseas recently, two of them have been thus.

I reckon if you are going to sell online and say you have one in stock to sell, then you should fucking HAVE IT IN STOCK!

Be mid fucking January before it gets here I bet.

Should have gone to my local shop, eh!

[imdying]

What's the hurry man! I think having to wait isn't so much an issue, more that you have to chase it up yourself... I mean, if you wanted to have to fuck about doing things like that, you could have just got it from somewhere in NZ!

[Digitdion]

Still have had no contact from Customs - or anyone else for that matter.

So I went back to the seller...had the following reply this morning:

"Our central supplier in Brisbane is where our goods are normally shipped off from.
But today when I rang about your order I found out that they had sold out of local stock and had it sent from overseas instead.

Terribly sorry about this. No idea they would do this and not notify us first. Anyway it is currently still clearing customs in the UK.

So estimated delivery is about a week or so away."

Of the four things I have brought in from overseas recently, two of them have been thus.

I reckon if you are going to sell online and say you have one in stock to sell, then you should fucking HAVE IT IN STOCK!

Be mid fucking January before it gets here I bet.

Should have gone to my local shop, eh!

Got to take the good with the bad.

[Gremlin]

I reckon if you are going to sell online and say you have one in stock to sell, then you should fucking HAVE IT IN STOCK!

I have several tech suppliers where often the last part is a phantom part and never exists... Don't ask me where they all go, but there must be a massive warehouse filled with goodies somewhere!

[ckai]

Still have had no contact from Customs - or anyone else for that matter.

So I went back to the seller...had the following reply this morning:

"Our central supplier in Brisbane is where our goods are normally shipped off from.
But today when I rang about your order I found out that they had sold out of local stock and had it sent from overseas instead.

Terribly sorry about this. No idea they would do this and not notify us first. Anyway it is currently still clearing customs in the UK.

So estimated delivery is about a week or so away."

Of the four things I have brought in from overseas recently, two of them have been thus.

I reckon if you are going to sell online and say you have one in stock to sell, then you should fucking HAVE IT IN STOCK!

Be mid fucking January before it gets here I bet.

Should have gone to my local shop, eh!

What's the hurry man! I think having to wait isn't so much an issue, more that you have to chase it up yourself... I mean, if you wanted to have to fuck about doing things like that, you could have just got it from somewhere in NZ!

Withdrawals???

[slofox]

What's the hurry man! I think having to wait isn't so much an issue, more that you have to chase it up yourself... I mean, if you wanted to have to fuck about doing things like that, you could have just got it from somewhere in NZ!

I hate waiting. And yes I probably should have used a local source - as I said in the last line of my last post.

Got to take the good with the bad.

Yep.

I have several tech suppliers where often the last part is a phantom part and never exists... Don't ask me where they all go, but there must be a massive warehouse filled with goodies somewhere!

So that's where it went.

Anyway, I still think that you should be sure you have an item before you offer it for sale. Just a thought.

[slofox]

Withdrawals???

Ummmmmmmmmm. Technically no - the old machine does put out some dark fluid. Which fires up the synapses each morning. But it also needs nursing along to get it to happen. Can't just leave it on to produce a cup of coffee - have to turn it on and off so that the pressure doesn't get out of all the warps and distortions of over ten years of grinding out a form of espresso. It has done pretty well for an el cheapo.

I'd hate to have to drink instant coffee at Christmas time.

[ckai]

I'd hate to have to drink instant coffee at Christmas time.

God forbid!!

I know when Brooke didn't have her flash fandangle italian semi-commercial beast running for months, I never heard the end to the "fuck this instant shit". And that was even the pricey instant shit! Bloody addicts

[slofox]

God forbid!!

I know when Brooke didn't have her flash fandangle italian semi-commercial beast running for months, I never heard the end to the "fuck this instant shit". And that was even the pricey instant shit! Bloody addicts