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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    They neither state, nor imply, that the effect is geometric rather than arithmetic. However if that is the case then reducing the average speed to 80 km/h would result in only 44.2% of the road deaths that occur at 100 km/h. Again that is the opposite of what we experienced here in NZ when the speed limit was reduced to 80 km/h.

    Statistics show that there is a decrease in the road toll as speed limits increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post


    guess which group you're in.


    let me let me let me guess .... Huh .. NOT the very small group you belong to ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    let me let me let me guess .... Huh .. NOT the very small group you belong to ...

    that's right. population me and my right hand. (and, actually, a bunch of other guys who are awake to the government BS)

    although, if you use your left it feels like someone else is doing it.

    just sayin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post

    that's right. population me and my right hand. (and, actually, a bunch of other guys who are awake to the government BS)

    although, if you use your left it feels like someone else is doing it.

    just sayin....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    So you're saying you're a bunch of....

    guys who are awake to the government BS, yes ed, that's exactly what i said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post

    guys who are awake to the government BS, yes ed, that's exactly what i said.
    Nice try, but that comment was in parenthesis and incidental to your main point.
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    lol at kiwibiker trying to justify breaking the law by modeling a hideously complex and random system with highschool physics.

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    Most of the accidents I've seen in the news share common denominators of excessive speed whilst under the influence, under the influence and not taking a corner and vehicles on the wrong side of the road. Certainly in my experience I'm almost disappointed in not meeting oncoming vehicles on my side of the road. Surely this is where accident rates should be focussed - oh silly me that's in the too hard basket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    lol at kiwibiker trying to justify breaking the law by modeling a hideously complex and random system with highschool physics.
    Lol at Dave trying to understand wtf is going on.

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    The outcome of an accident is all down to chance i.e. 50/50. That's living to tell the tale/face the consequences, or dying and floating around in hells basement on a looped video sim of your crash for the uninitiated. I've yet to see figures for the number of survivors who crash and have been exceeding the speed limit... I wonder why (note, it's not coz they all die ). Til then, peeps will continue to drive as they have done until they have their accident. Tis only the grumpy bastards who are concerned about the speed limit. I say remove the fuckers and let's have some real life/death examples, thin the gene pool out a bit and keep an open eye for dangerous driving, which just so happens to be not driving to the conditions/circumstances i.e. plenty of "speeding" where noone elses life is put in danger. I have a sneaky suspicion that some people exceed the speed limit on a very regular basis and still live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    Lol at Dave trying to understand wtf is going on.
    That's not something you should be laughing about, considering it's you who I am "trying" to understand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave- View Post
    That's not something you should be laughing about, considering it's you who I am "trying" to understand?
    What? Nobody allowed to try working things out when you're around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zedder View Post
    What? Nobody allowed to try working things out when you're around?
    No, cause people have a tendency to believe in things like ghosts, deities, and centrifugal forces when they try working things out on their own.

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    What I want to know is, if a vehicle travels along a straight road at 150km/h with no side roads and no traffic. How the fuck can they crash? Seriously, barring people with serious mental deficiencies, how can you possibly crash. It would be safer to travel at 150km/h in a van in the rain on a straight bit of motorway than going 45km/h in a 100km/h twisty area. If a car is going stupidly slow (Hi grandma!) in a twisty road, and someone behind is going a safe speed like 70km/h or so, comes around a bend then shit! Hit the brakes to avoid the slug in front of you. Yes you should easily avoid the nana/bitch, but still that is more likely to result in a crash. There are a shitload of roads in NZ that have 100km/h limits, that it is impossible (in 99% of road legal vehicles) to safely travel at 100km/h, in these cases it's obvious the driver/rider has to judge the corner, adjust their speed and control the vehicle themselves, without being told what speed to go. If someone misjudges the corner, goes too fast and crashes, how will enforcing speed limits reduce similar crashes occurring? It wont.

    I've had friends (who I now think a lot less of) who have crashed for various reasons like:
    1) swerving in a front wheel drive, back slides out, they take their foot off the throttle and brake, back steps out worse and in the ditch. (That was a 20 year old man with his full)
    2) "I didn't want to turn any sharper, in case my car skidded and I crashed so I didn't turn sharp enough and went into the ditch" (18 year old girl with her full licence)
    3)"I've made it around that corner at higher speeds before, I didn't think the rain would of made it that slippery" ("boy racer" kind of guy on his restricted for a few years forced progression please!)
    4) And my favourite "That's a poorly designed intersection, I couldn't see him before I pulled out" (what do you expect when you go through a giveway sign at 30km/h in a 50km/h urban area with a fenced property on the corner. It's not rocket science to slow to a speed where you can stop if need be.... Like the law says).

    Every one of those crashes should be avoidable by anyone who has enough skill to get a restricted licence. If you think you wouldn't of been able to avoid any of those crashes then I would suggest you give your licence to the rubbish bin.

    The speed isn't the issue (I don't know anyone who has crashed because they were over the speed limit). It's easy to see that idiots are the reason for crashes. The licencing system is still far too easy. Let a moron drive, expect a moron to crash. You need to hope that moron doesn't kill someone. (Am I the only person who is happy reading articles about people complaining that they failed their driving test?).

    Rant over

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