Sticky Tar Day

[Zedder]

One of us may indeed live in la la land but I don't think it's me.

I have no idea how much has been spent on roading infrastructure, but I do know it has been very unevenly distributed. Most of it going on routes in and out of Auckland and Wellington so that traffic there can become even more congested. Presumably billions more will need to be spent in Christchurch repairing earthquake damage.

The major roading projects where I live keep getting postponed, and yer average Kiwi driver being very "average", people continue to die.

It would now be many decades since the tax on petrol was allocated specifically to roading that and I suspect the proceeds from "enforcement" are also now swallowed up by the consolidated fund.

You're absolutely right Pritch, you have no idea. Originally you wrote that money collected for roading wasn't being used for that purpose. I supplied figures to show that to be wrong. After 15 years in roading design, engineering and construction both here and overseas I can tell you the figures stack up.

Have you any data to show bad road making or surface conditions are the cause of deaths in NZ?

Also, check the NZTA site for roading projects in your area, I did.

Sure, expenditure on roading is on a priority basis but, I've never heard of it being to the detriment of safety. In fact, road design and construction is one of the key controllable elements in reducing deaths. Idiot drivers, the biggest variable are not surprisingly the biggest problem. Cheers.

[actungbaby]

...cheap chinese tar made in india i 'spose..

knock of the tar sounds like anti smoking add

[TheTengTheory]

You're absolutely right Pritch, you have no idea. Originally you wrote that money collected for roading wasn't being used for that purpose. I supplied figures to show that to be wrong. After 15 years in roading design, engineering and construction both here and overseas I can tell you the figures stack up.

Have you any data to show bad road making or surface conditions are the cause of deaths in NZ?

Also, check the NZTA site for roading projects in your area, I did.

Sure, expenditure on roading is on a priority basis but, I've never heard of it being to the detriment of safety. In fact, road design and construction is one of the key controllable elements in reducing deaths. Idiot drivers, the biggest variable are not surprisingly the biggest problem. Cheers.

I do not know the technicalities or statistics behind how they design and construct the roads here. Jjust my opinion and confusion to a certain extent.

Rode through SH 43 and the amount of melting tar on the road was...scary....Had to concentrate on the road directly infront of me to negotiate a line through the tar. Didn't go very quickly due to the conditions but sure was bloody nerve wracking braking and hoping the front doesn't wash out on the tar.

What confuses me the most is that despite been the same stretch of road and been exposed to the sun equally, some roads had no bubbling tar pools while some were just atrocious.

I do agree with your point been that road surfaces don't cause deaths, Ignorant and unaware drivers do.

[Zedder]

I do not know the technicalities or statistics behind how they design and construct the roads here. Jjust my opinion and confusion to a certain extent.

Rode through SH 43 and the amount of melting tar on the road was...scary....Had to concentrate on the road directly infront of me to negotiate a line through the tar. Didn't go very quickly due to the conditions but sure was bloody nerve wracking braking and hoping the front doesn't wash out on the tar.

What confuses me the most is that despite been the same stretch of road and been exposed to the sun equally, some roads had no bubbling tar pools while some were just atrocious.

I do agree with your point been that road surfaces don't cause deaths, Ignorant and unaware drivers do.

Yeah it can be very scary.

A couple of questions: Did you report the tar bleeding? Was the seal new or a repair?

[TheTengTheory]

Yeah it can be very scary.

A couple of questions: Did you report the tar bleeding? Was the seal new or a repair?

Only rode through it yesterday arvo....Seems to be repair work gone awry. The first quarter from taumaranui was particularly bad. Front wheel went sideways momentarily half way through a corner...

[Zedder]

Only rode through it yesterday arvo....Seems to be repair work gone awry. The first quarter from taumaranui was particularly bad. Front wheel went sideways momentarily half way through a corner...

Some phone numbers to report road hazards: NZTransport Agency on 0800 44 44 49 or Police on *555. Both 24/7 afaik.

[TheTengTheory]

Some phone numbers to report road hazards: NZTransport Agency on 0800 44 44 49 or Police on *555. Both 24/7 afaik.