Points scale

[jellywrestler]

But at the moment there is little real depth at the elite level in NZ road racing.

so how come last weekend at Teretonga five riders in one superbike race all set the fastest time on the track?
Have you had a look at any 600 races over the last three weekends?

[suzuki21]

so how come last weekend at Teretonga five riders in one superbike race all set the fastest time on the track?
Have you had a look at any 600 races over the last three weekends?

I think he meant lack of depth as in lack of riders Spyda? Half the field setting fastest laps is a bit sad to be honest.

[koba]

Deep Buckets.

[300weatherby]

I think he meant lack of depth as in lack of riders Spyda? Half the field setting fastest laps is a bit sad to be honest.

One can hardly describe a very small number of riders in any class, depth. How fast any of that miniscule number can go is not relevant to "depth"

New Zealand rugby has "depth"
New Zealand motocycle racing, does not.

You want "depth", make it feasible for an average fast club rider to be on the same grid.

[koba]

You want "depth", make it feasible for an average fast club rider to be on the same grid.

Or race buckets (or moto4/5).

When was the last time any other class had to have the start staggered as the entries exceeded the maximum number of starters-on-a-grid for the track?

I think it was 45 for Taupo...

[jellywrestler]

New Zealand rugby has "depth"
New Zealand motocycle racing, does not.

You want "depth", make it feasible for an average fast club rider to be on the same grid.

i really don't understand what you're saying here, i don't follow rugby so you'll need to explain 'depth' in the context of the sport, and once you explain this explain how we don't have 'depth' in the motorcycle racing. also how's it not feasible for the Average fast club rider to be on the same grid???? They can go to the meetings and ride like anyone else can't they?
We may not have anyone that can go to the top at world championship level, kind of like the 16 or twenty previous years of rugby but still doesn't mean we've got no depth.

[Skunk]

http://mnz.edev.co.nz/docs/rules/201...g.pdf?sfvrsn=2


22.8.8 Points are awarded for 1st to 15th placings as follows:25, 20, 16, 13, 11, 10, 9,
8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Much better than using the MX points system

Cheers Jas. I know there were three points scales in the rule book but I couldn't remember where the third one was. Doh.
Chapters 6, 22 and 24.

[wharfy]

i really don't understand what you're saying here, i don't follow rugby so you'll need to explain 'depth' in the context of the sport, and once you explain this explain how we don't have 'depth' in the motorcycle racing. also how's it not feasible for the Average fast club rider to be on the same grid???? They can go to the meetings and ride like anyone else can't they?
We may not have anyone that can go to the top at world championship level, kind of like the 16 or twenty previous years of rugby but still doesn't mean we've got no depth.

Depth = number of people capable of filling the top places. In rugby for example there are 3 or 4 world class players that can slot into any position in the AB's ( Ist five eight for example, they won the world cup with our third choice ). How many superbike riders are there in NZ who can stay on the same lap as Stroud for a 20 lap race ? 8 - 10 ? ('m an admittedly "Below average" club rider I'd get lapped 3 times !!)

[300weatherby]

i really don't understand what you're saying here, i don't follow rugby so you'll need to explain 'depth' in the context of the sport, and once you explain this explain how we don't have 'depth' in the motorcycle racing. also how's it not feasible for the Average fast club rider to be on the same grid???? They can go to the meetings and ride like anyone else can't they?
We may not have anyone that can go to the top at world championship level, kind of like the 16 or twenty previous years of rugby but still doesn't mean we've got no depth.

-If you need the concept of "depth" explained, it is allready too late.
-You don't follow rugby......
-There are a number of riders in our catchment area that do not go 600's or Supers at National level because they risk being caught up in someone else's 2,3 or 4 way battle at the front, do you not actually understand the dangers inherent in that?
-Drop 1 practice, make it 3 10 lap races, costs do not change and you expose the grid to the risk of increased numbers, and the risk of begining to create................................ depth.
-Imagine, 15 races to win the National title instead of 10, you can crash, have a mechanical failure, make a bad tyre decision, or just have bad luck- and you are still in with a chance!, a point for pole, a point for fastest race lap rewards consistancy, a little less greed from MNZ as well would help, oh and: get rid of that arrogant tosspot Tuckerman.

Had no idea about that bloke untill I saw him addressing the Streetstock mob last nats at Ruapuna
In the real world, he would have been filled in, and the real punchup would have been over who went first, not even my class/problem/argument, but I would have happily given him a couple myself.

And just cause I don't go rubbing myself on Stroud, does not mean I don't get to have an opinion, right or wrong.

[CHOPPA]

-If you need the concept of "depth" explained, it is allready too late.
-You don't follow rugby......
-There are a number of riders in our catchment area that do not go 600's or Supers at National level because they risk being caught up in someone else's 2,3 or 4 way battle at the front, do you not actually understand the dangers inherent in that?
-Drop 1 practice, make it 3 10 lap races, costs do not change and you expose the grid to the risk of increased numbers, and the risk of begining to create................................ depth.
-Imagine, 15 races to win the National title instead of 10, you can crash, have a mechanical failure, make a bad tyre decision, or just have bad luck- and you are still in with a chance!, a point for pole, a point for fastest race lap rewards consistancy, a little less greed from MNZ as well would help, oh and: get rid of that arrogant tosspot Tuckerman.

Had no idea about that bloke untill I saw him addressing the Streetstock mob last nats at Ruapuna
In the real world, he would have been filled in, and the real punchup would have been over who went first, not even my class/problem/argument, but I would have happily given him a couple myself.

And just cause I don't go rubbing myself on Stroud, does not mean I don't get to have an opinion, right or wrong.

Some good ideas and thoughts behind them!

Billy has been talking about having a rep from each class put forward ideas hopefully it goes forward so we can mention these ideas to them

[budda]

Some good ideas and thoughts behind them!

Billy has been talking about having a rep from each class put forward ideas hopefully it goes forward so we can mention these ideas to them

Lets not forget why the current format exists - it is the way it is because thats what the Competitors asked for/demanded ...... personally lean toward the 3 race format, but as a seasoned Race Organiser like "weatherby" would undoubtably know, there's a sh1tload more to it than just re-naming a "practice" a "race".........

[300weatherby]

Lets not forget why the current format exists - it is the way it is because thats what the Competitors asked for/demanded ...... personally lean toward the 3 race format, but as a seasoned Race Organiser like "weatherby" would undoubtably know, there's a sh1tload more to it than just re-naming a "practice" a "race".........

We all have our specific knowledge and skills that other people cannot match, yours is world class ability to organise racing.

Enlighten me as to why it is not simple.

-Flag marshals already in place.
-Timing system already in place.
-Ambo in place ready to go.
-Competitors on track.
-No extra time required from the day.
-Comentators with a white knuckle grasp on the mike in place.
-Me and my popcorn at the ready.

[Billy]

WOW!!!! And here was me thinking this thread was gonna be about the point scoring system ????

Be really awesome if those with an opinion read the rulebook so they could form an educated one instead of just shooting from the hip,Perhaps somebody would actually listen to them then.

[Mental Trousers]

WOW!!!! And here was me thinking this thread was gonna be about the point scoring system ????

This is KB au

[300weatherby]

This is KB au

Damnation!!! you beat me to it!