Haldanes is closed

[AD345]

This sucks. Heard about it yesterday afternoon. Just as I am due for tyres, warrant and service too - motherfucker

Once more unto the breach dear friends...

[skippa1]

This sucks. Heard about it yesterday afternoon. Just as I am due for tyres, warrant and service too - motherfucker

Once more unto the breach dear friends...

Im heading there now, I dont know if the doors are shut but I need oild and filter so will try my luck???

[AD345]

Im heading there now, I dont know if the doors are shut but I need oild and filter so will try my luck???

Good luck

They were pretty bare yesterday

[Maha]

Why so much over thinking on the subject?

Simple equation really...sustained low bike sales = close the door.

[Bikemad]

This sucks. Heard about it yesterday afternoon. Just as I am due for tyres, warrant and service too - motherfucker

Once more unto the breach dear friends...

give AJ a try...........workshop under motomail..............he is a good cat......reasonable pricing on his tyres etc

[Madness]

I really agree with what you are saying, but where is the threshold of reasonableness? ...As a consumer, if I could get the same bars from Haldanes for 10-15% more than the Ebay price, I would do it.....but there is a line I draw whereby I am not going to devalue my own $ and work efforts by spending that HUGE difference solely to keep the dealer in business, or I will be out of the business of supporting myself.

I dont know what the answer is, I just know it isnt simple.

I think you answered your own question and that's IMHO a very fair approach to take. It's unfortunate that the disparity is so huge in some cases and no-one would be reasonable to ask that you'd fork out such huge amounts. It's the mentality of "fuckin dealerships are ripping us all off, I'll just go online for a fucking spark plug" that irks me as we're writing ourselves off as a country wihout giving it a fair go in too many instances.

[MD]

A bloody shame when any bike shop closes up.

The good old days will soon be gone when we could enjoy the simple fun day of wandering around all the local shops to admire the bikes, touch em, smell em, sit on em, test ride..and once in a while buy one. Back in my 70s school days it took a hell of the long time to get around all the shops scattered across Christchurch. Sadly it probably only takes an hour now.

I don't see any answer. I think our new prices are reasonable in global terms but cars just keep getting cheaper, pushing the bike into the luxury toy position. Then the economies of scales kick in for cars making their consumables cheaper. My car costs half what the bike costs for a service or tyres etc. I'm not complaining, it's just a shame it has come to that. It was easier for my generation to own a near new bike out of High School. Doubt that's the case now.

Hopefully bike shops can merge and survive. I know Honda was an arsehole for many years demanding their outlets only stock their brand. Reality final smacked them in the face. Unfortunately things like rental costs might force shops out of the CBDs which is also out of sight, out of mind of many prospective buyers.

We need to support our NZ shops folks. Another down side is that when on tour you have a bigger risk of not being able to find a bike shop to help out with an urgent tyre repair/replacement or breakdown. I don't know Haldanes but I gather they sold Ducati and Victory - one less port of call for those owners in need. Stinks.

Being on Owners forums I've noticed NZ is not alone in this. The Yanks seem to be losing bike shops at a rapid rate. It amazes me how far some of the MV owners must go to buy and get a service. Shit, too far for me.

I also think the manufacturers are offering us too much choice, too many models/variants. Great for us buyers but there must be a cost to the distributors and shops

[roogazza]

Sad state of affairs MD. So glad we had the boom and best years.
I'm on bike number 50 and the way the value has gone out of it, it will probably be my last ?
I won't sell it I don't think, just hang it on the wall or turn it into a coffee table !! lol.

See you out early tomorrow huh ?

[MD]

Sad state of affairs MD. So glad we had the boom and best years.
I'm on bike number 50 and the way the value has gone out of it, it will probably be my last ?
I won't sell it I don't think, just hang it on the wall or turn it into a coffee table !! lol.

See you out early tomorrow huh ?

I like that Gaz. Retire your bike as a coffee table. I've got golf tomorrow. Steve will be out riding.

[DMNTD:Me]

Good luck

They were pretty bare yesterday

They certainly aren't answering their phone.

[Madness]

They certainly aren't answering their phone.

Caller I.D?

[DMNTD:Me]

Caller I.D?

Good point, I was using your phone

[Madness]

Good point, I was using your phone

Damn, was it in your bedroom? I must have left it there when you were at work yesterday.

[DMNTD:Me]

Damn, was it in your bedroom? I must have left it there when you were at work yesterday.

Phew...no wonder my missus appreciates my adult size

[Ocean1]

I think you answered your own question and that's IMHO a very fair approach to take. It's unfortunate that the disparity is so huge in some cases and no-one would be reasonable to ask that you'd fork out such huge amounts. It's the mentality of "fuckin dealerships are ripping us all off, I'll just go online for a fucking spark plug" that irks me as we're writing ourselves off as a country wihout giving it a fair go in too many instances.

Some of the massive variations in price are driven by what mass (auto) production has done for production costs and the change in marketing models. Couple of decades ago there was a direct link between the cost of production and the market price, that's not true anymore. Partly because of natural barriers to entering the manufacuting game, and partly due to the advanced protectionist practices of the big players in modern markets.

That plug you're taliking about probably cost less than 20c to make, certainly less than a dollar. Add multiple distribution and tax costs and it should be available to you for $2. That's a reality only if you can access the manufacturer or his immediate distribution network, otherwise the price is driven solely by what you're prepared to pay. If you want a "fair market price" you've first got to know what shit costs to make, then you might want to start dismantling the monopolies that siphon off massive profits while doing nothing to contribute to the product's value.

I've been associated with manufacturing all my adult life, it's an absolute bitch knowing roughly what everything you buy cost to make while peeling off ten times that from your wallet. I've given up hope we'll ever get to call the big distributor's bluff.