Haldanes is closed

[Robert Taylor]

Maybe. But don't going crying to us next time you need a bike repaired for an insurance claim and there are no shops around to do it!

Or a place to go to establish sizing and fit for the motorcycle clothing you are going to buy online.................

[Crasherfromwayback]

IM here for the money

If materialism is your main motivator its probably not for you but as far as different values go its hard to beat.

And fair enough too!

Agree 100% there too. But so many people here in NZ bite off way more than they can chew too. They want a flash house in a nice area...but waste money buying the latest 50" plasma TV etc...with Sky...drip up a new Falcon...a VW for the wife...over seas trips, they smoke $100.00 a week worth of tabacco, and drink more than that worth of piss etc etc. My parents were far from well off. But the saved hard out...missed out on all the nice things...and brought their first house in Wainuiomata. Paid it off...moved over the hill to a far nicer place. Paid that off...did likewise. They made it when mortages were 20 odd fucking %.

The major problems the peeps that moan about NZ have, is only a mirror glance away.

[boman]

Ok, here is a question for all of you, in KB land.

I am after a Akrapovic exhaust system for my 675. Where in this country, is there someone interested enough to help me, can I purchase said exhaust. Full system, from Headers to Muffler. I asked 3 dealers to supply a price. As I was shopping on a Saturday.

After 1 month of waiting with still no answer, from either dealer. I asked a guy in America. Within an hour I had a price. On a weekend there. Saturday to be exact.

Now I still havn't purchased said exhaust. So if you supply me, with a New zealand agent. I will consider buying in New Zealand.
I want to purchase here.

But to put things into perspective. $3000.00NZ dollars for an Arrows System, off Amps. Or $1900.00 NZ overseas. Shipped.

I will not divulge how much The Akrapovic is. I am interested in what happens.

[Digitdion]

I didn't deny the low wage bit. What I do deny...is that NZ feels like a third world shithole (I know he didn't use that term). NZ is an incredible place to live. You don't have to earn millions to have a nice lifestyle. You can snowboard one day, swim in the sea the next. We have uncrowded roads to enjoy, a climate that's pretty bloody good and food/wine/beer second to none. Most of the world has been doing it tough in case you haven't noticed, and we're no different.

I know the answer. If you find living here so bad...fuck off.

Here Here! We have a great lifestyle here. Well, I know I do. But lifestyle does have a cost. It's a balancing act. In this day and age whether living life how you would like, or running a successful business, one has to find a niche.

[Crasherfromwayback]

We have a great lifestyle here. Well, I know I do. But lifestyle does have a cost. It's a balancing act. .

We sure as hell do. And I work in the motorcycle industry to boot!

[Ocean1]

...and brought their first house in Wainuiomata.

And will the yoof of today accept such massive sacrifices for the greater good?

Will they fuck.














Quite right too.

[scumdog]

Or a place to go to establish sizing and fit for the motorcycle clothing you are going to buy online.................

My pet hate #12.

Something I would never do.

[Digitdion]

Who can deny it's a low wage economy here? Most 40 somethings and above are quite settled but most young kiwi's are voting with their feet and not coming back. Head in the sand if you think NZ is getting better.

I wish I knew the answers.

Have not most young kiwi's headed over sea's in the past.
We are too small of an economy to affect or influence global economic trends. But we can adapt and make some coin off it moving forward.
We have had the Stone Age, the ice age, medieval times.
The commonwealth, Soviet and US superpowers controlling the world in a major way. Now we move into a time of more change. One of those big shifts is the Technology age. The Internet is a massive part of that when it comes to communication and Retail.
Embrace it, or become extinct.

[Madness]

one has to find a niche.

Bollocks. Many successful businesses in this country are operating today after coming in after multiple players had already established. They are successful for many reasons including simply having a better product or by providing a better service. That's hardly a niche.

But lifestyle does have a cost. It's a balancing act.

Yes it is. It's balancing the expectation of being able to visit multiple bike shops to get the best deal versus shafting the lot of them by shopping overseas, often whilst also shafting the country by avoiding tax (the Gubbermints fault entirely, of course). We're getting that balance wrong and bike shops are continuing to drop like flies.

I'm glad that if nothing else, people are discussing this subject and plenty more appear to be reading and I'm sure it's provoking some thought amongst those capable of it. Still though, the Lesbian pics are still bringing in more green, go figure.

[Woodman]

Another reason to shop for bike parts/accessories online is the convenience and the information you can get. I quite enjoy surfing for cool bits where I can look at pictures and read reviews etc. I very rarely compare prices.

Its a different shopping experience entirely than going into a bike shop taking up the salespersons time while they look through catalogues and there are other customers waiting to buy stuff when you are just browsing and maybe had no intention buying anything anyway.

Shame the shops are closing, but the market decides who stays and who goes in the long run.

[wasiler]

Ok, here is a question for all of you, in KB land.

I am after a Akrapovic exhaust system for my 675. Where in this country, is there someone interested enough to help me, can I purchase said exhaust. Full system, from Headers to Muffler. I asked 3 dealers to supply a price. As I was shopping on a Saturday.

After 1 month of waiting with still no answer, from either dealer. I asked a guy in America. Within an hour I had a price. On a weekend there. Saturday to be exact.

Now I still havn't purchased said exhaust. So if you supply me, with a New zealand agent. I will consider buying in New Zealand.
I want to purchase here.

But to put things into perspective. $3000.00NZ dollars for an Arrows System, off Amps. Or $1900.00 NZ overseas. Shipped.

I will not divulge how much The Akrapovic is. I am interested in what happens.

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Don't know about a full exhaust but here is one that you might be able to compare.


Triumph Daytona 675 Slip-on Exhaust by Arrow (A9600199)
Trademe ---- $1189NZ
In the add it states the recommended NZ retail is $1399 (don't know if that is true)

http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore...idproduct=1239
$749.99 USD ---> $845.25NZD

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A saving of 1189 - 845.25 = 343.75NZD ....... or ............ a 40% increase off trademe

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If we look at the recommended NZ retail
1399 - 845.25 = 553.75NZD savings ...........or............... a 65% increase from retail (not sure if that is really retail though.


That should give you an "eye deer" of how much it will cost if you use those percentages. It looks like an entrepreneur has gone into business for himself. I wonder why the shops are losing business. Even if that trademe guy was charged GST, with that kind of savings he can still undercut small business. Christ, he is buying at full retail price and can ship it and still make a profit.

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[Digitdion]

Or a place to go to establish sizing and fit for the motorcycle clothing you are going to buy online.................

By the time that hAppens some one would have invented a scanning machine that will tell you precisely what size your need, and the fit will be spot on!
Gee when the model T was a best seller who would have thought where cars would end up. Cells phones used to be fucking huge in size just twenty odd years ago. Now I can buy anything online using my phone.
Wouldn't be interesting if there where Internet farming forums around back in the seventies. I wonder what would have been writing then after the Uk said to us thanks for coming!
Economic change is this country is not new.

[SPman]

Don't know what part of the workforce you or your cousin are in but are now back to above pre 2009 levels and it is getting better. - not from all the people I hear from - mates, relatives, etc - and no, they aren't lazy whining cunts, either - most of them, like me, have a high work ethic - it's just the jobs /work are not there. - mainly construction/civil/engineering and assorted offshoots, related - tradesmen mainly
But I have heard of a few coming back here and lasting about 6 months as the can't be bothered with the laziness and whining of some people. - you'll always get lazy, whining people - even when times are good - that's nothing new
Guess it just comes down to whom you surround yourself with and how you look at life, - possibly I Listen to the fiance report in the morning on ZB and from since the downturn happened the report has said we don't have it bad here and most company's are still making a profit so it can't be that fucked.
Yep, some are making a profit, banks etc are making record profits - just like the US and UK - doesn't mean a lot down where it hurts, though. Depends what you are involved with. Here in WA, the mining boom is distorting the figures rather a lot - those involved in the mining sector are doing very nicely, a lot of others aren't. I see the richest 100 people in NZ have increased their wealth by 28% last year....yeah - times are tough for them and their hangers on - and that's who the finance reports are aimed at

Maybe you should stop believing all that Labour and the greens say, or the naysayers on KB. - I wouldn't believe much that Labour say, about as much as I'd believe National -and at least the Greens are saying something..... I prefer to find out what's actually going on from sources other than the MSM.

So the way I look at it is I still have a choice of which bike I will get on today and where shall I go riding, and for how long. It can't be that bad. Many people are still doing OK - that doesn't mean that things are overall, OK, or that most people are tickety boo

Besides ever paid for a track day in Aussie? now that's something that is way cheaper here. True - about $200 at Wanneroo Tracktime - a bit cheaper at Collie

NZ is an incredible place to live. etc etc etc

I fully agree - the place is great - I'm a 5th generation euro kiwi. I've done the surf in the morning, snowboard in the afternoon type thing, solitary bike rides up and down the length of the twisty country - It's still home, all my family and friends are still there - it's just that it could be so much better than what it's become the last 6-7 yrs, despite the Economic recession. You don't notice a lot of things about the country until you're outside, looking in.

If you find living here so bad...fuck off.

Oh dear, the exasperated retort of someone who knows they are wrong, but is pissed off about it so shoots the messenger - a common enough reaction.
I did fuck off, but, it wasn't about money (I was earning sufficient), or work (I had a job I enjoyed), or the politics, economy or anything else - it could be said to be the wiles of Eve!.........but.....that's another story.......

[Zedder]

Another reason to shop for bike parts/accessories online is the convenience and the information you can get. I quite enjoy surfing for cool bits where I can look at pictures and read reviews etc. I very rarely compare prices.

Its a different shopping experience entirely than going into a bike shop taking up the salespersons time while they look through catalogues and there are other customers waiting to buy stuff when you are just browsing and maybe had no intention buying anything anyway.

Shame the shops are closing, but the market decides who stays and who goes in the long run.

Exactly, the market decides. Here's a couple of questions for bike shop staff: When was the last time (if any) a customer survey was carried out? Is there a written marketing plan in place?

I'm asking because it's obviously tough out there which makes it very important to have an insight into the minds of customers and what they want but also (and this really hurt) Katman red repped me and reckons I know nothing about the situation so this may help me.

[Digitdion]

Bollocks. Many successful businesses in this country are operating today after coming in after multiple players had already established. They are successful for many reasons including simply having a better product or by providing a better service. That's hardly a niche.

Forgive me if I am mistaken. But that's what I thought a niche was. Doing something that others are not. Being unique!