Surely they wouldn't

[FJRider]

Seriously though, it comes back to the same old chestnut. Inattention blindness, amplified by the looming effect. You don't see a bike off in the distance, and even if you do it looks miles away. Then suddenly it appears really close, and your mind then explains that fact by theorizing that it must have been going fast.

There is just so much psychology involved, I need a lie down. On a couch.

Not psychology ... more to do with physics ...

Two vehicles approaching each other, both vehicles traveling at 100 km/hr. Actual approach speed then is 200 km/hr. A speed/formula beyond the comprehension of many to understand ... let alone estimate visually ...

[BMWST?]

i cross the centreline on occasion,but when i do its a calculated manouvre just like an overtaking manouvre both in the car and on the bike.In the car i would use exactly the same process as an overtaking manouvre, on the bike the process is not quite so rigourous.From my observation of other riders my crossing the centreline process is more rigourous than most motorcyclists overtaking calculations.

[sugilite:Me]

I live very rural, not many of the roads around here have centre lines. I've wondered what the official line from police is on these roads? (serious question).
Perhaps if Rastuscat is sufficiently rested from his well earned couch duty he could offer an opinion? I'm just curious.

[FJRider]

I live very rural, not many of the roads around here have centre lines. I've wondered what the official line from police is on these roads? (serious question).
Perhaps if Rastuscat is sufficiently rested from his well earned couch duty he could offer an opinion? I'm just curious.

According to the Road Code ... you are to keep as far left as is Practicable ... thus neither side of the road has "Right of Way" ... and vehicles traveling in either direction BOTH allow room for the other to pass without incident.

Thus a "failing to keep left" might be changed to a "Dangerous" charge. (depending on circumstances ... and who witnessed/reported it)

[tri boy]

I was told by a shrink once, that the human ability to drive a car/operate a vehicle/machine, is one of the most complex task that the brain performs.
















(he told me a few things about myself also that are now hidden in a locked chest, in a dim compartment, down a no exit nerve ending in my worn, aging grey matter)

[sugilite:Me]

According to the Road Code ... you are to keep as far left as is Practicable ... thus neither side of the road has "Right of Way" ... and vehicles traveling in either direction BOTH allow room for the other to pass without incident.

Thus a "failing to keep left" might be changed to a "Dangerous" charge. (depending on circumstances ... and who witnessed/reported it)

Makes sense. I've never seen a cop on any of my local rides in the 13 years I've been here, so no major, though just the other day I went to visit a neighbour in a little old mitsi chariot and unfortunately met a sheep truck in a spot where I'd always wondered what would happen if such an occurrence would happen, absolutely no time for either of us to brake, (looked like he was going fast, but prob just my frightened state of mind) so all I could do was not look at the truck, but more how close I could get to the bank on the left without toppling over it, result a smashed right wing mirror. I did not bother chasing after the truck, as even though he was technically on my side of the road, he could not pull any further left either. My neighbour had also ponded the same scenario, but has never had the practicable demo I got. It's quite hard to describe the spot, it is a very unusual combination of a rise, corner, bridge and culvert, even if I was only going 10 kph and came to a total stop, the result would of been the same.

[FJRider]

just the other day I went to visit a neighbour in a little old mitsi chariot and unfortunately met a sheep truck in a spot where I'd always wondered what would happen if such an occurrence would happen, absolutely no time for either of us to brake, (looked like he was going fast, but prob just my frightened state of mind) so all I could do was not look at the truck, but more how close I could get to the bank on the left without toppling over it.

A few similar roads around here ...

[cheshirecat]

Dear God. Hand your license in if you have to ask such ignorant questions.

Fixed it for you as he's the only one keeping him alive

[Ender EnZed]

Me, I live in the real world. In my world if I misjudge my speed into an an unfamiliar curve or for any other reason feel that it may be undesirable to risk over-cooking the lean and sliding off the road or just running wide and unnecessarily increasing the risk of such an event, then if it's safer to do so, I would cross the centre line. I can only assume that you and others commenting likewise would grit your teeth, slavishly stick to the left and hope for the best.

You sound like a fucking hazard. The kind that makes poor decisions and also can't ride a motorcycle.

It's quite hard to describe the spot, it is a very unusual combination of a rise, corner, bridge and culvert, even if I was only going 10 kph and came to a total stop, the result would of been the same.

I'm fascinated. Could you pinpoint it on Google Maps?

[sugilite:Me]

I'm fascinated. Could you pinpoint it on Google Maps?

Shit, that took longer than i expected to sort! I used street view, google use pretty low res for rural, but hopefully you can work out the detail....

[Clockwork]

[QUOTE=Ender EnZed;1130495078]You sound like a fucking hazard. The kind that makes poor decisions and also can't ride a motorcycle.

Thanks for your input but I'll stack my ride safety record against yours any time. Toss pot!

@Rastuscat. Cheers.

[gammaguy]

We ride the windy bits to get away from the straight bits so why ruin a perfectly good corner or two?

because broadly speaking there are two types of road riders

those that are happy to be going round corners and possibly explore the outer areas of the traction/lean angle/knee down experience

and those that are looking for a quicker "lap time"

as we know the fastest way between two points is a straight line,so the two styles are mutually exclusive

one is illlegal,the other is not if it is completed within the speed limit.

so me,I look for as many corners as possible and never cross the line.

[gammaguy]

I live very rural, not many of the roads around here have centre lines. I've wondered what the official line from police is on these roads? (serious question).
Perhaps if Rastuscat is sufficiently rested from his well earned couch duty he could offer an opinion? I'm just curious.

Plenty of roads like that in my neck of the woods(Banks Peninsula)

Mr Rastus should be well qualified to comment on that

[rastuscat]

I live very rural, not many of the roads around here have centre lines. I've wondered what the official line from police is on these roads? (serious question).
Perhaps if Rastuscat is sufficiently rested from his well earned couch duty he could offer an opinion? I'm just curious.

Had a look at the photos and it looks like a 1 lane road to me. Hardly enough to call it two lanes.

I'd be keeping well left simply out of self preservation. I seriously doubt that you'd find any Popos enforcing the keep left rule on that road, as it's common sense to stay as left as possible.

Also too remote from donut shops, so hardly like to make it onto our RTPP.

[FJRider]

I seriously doubt that you'd find any Popos enforcing the keep left rule on that road, as it's common sense to stay as left as possible.

Also too remote from donut shops, so hardly like to make it onto our RTPP.

Only if said Popo lived on that road.

Self preservation is usually the primary instinct on such roads. Might isn't always right ... but it usually carries the arguement.