Next gen gaming consoles

**Headbanger** · 9th February 2013, 12:22

I don't have a high end gaming rig, and I can run Skyrim at 1080p with every single setting maxed out.

Load times are too quick to read the text on the loading screens, The games runs as smoooooooooooth as butter, and it looks fucking stunning.

If someone can't see the difference between this and the console version then they are either delusion, full of shit, or blind to the point they need glasses.

**Scuba_Steve** · 11th February 2013, 12:04

Since this this turned into a next gen gaming thread... seems Crytek is headed "Free-To-Play" & within the next 5 years too so says CEO Cevat Yerli, of-course all based round their GFace service

Originally Posted by Yerli

"We decided five or six years ago that we want to marry the quality of triple-A games with the business model of free-to-play," Yerli says. "And at that time, we decided some other games, in some of our other studios, would head in this direction. But we kept pushing the quality bar higher on our console business, which is the main dominating business for the Western world, but we are observing, plainly - and we see this already with Warface - that the free-to-play market is on the rise. I think over the next two to three years, free-to-play is going to rival retail with quality games like Warface."
Crytek as a business will "transition from a developer to a service company" and will offer GFace to any developer that needs it, Yerli says.

**Headbanger** · 12th February 2013, 10:49

PC's are always next generation......

Not only in hardware/performance but in marketing,distribution,development,communities, Mods and online play.

The free-to-play movement is just one example, and of course the other big one, community funded projects,bypassing the publishers entirely.

Most will still sell a line of retail games alongside a related free-to-play game, Though I'd expect support to wane for some projects quite shortly as they continue to price content in "free" games through the roof or offer "games" which are merely demos or bereft of worthy content.

**Scuba_Steve** · 12th February 2013, 11:18

Originally Posted by Headbanger

PC's are always next generation......

Think you mean PC's are ever evolving, not they're always next gen. Something cannot always be next gen.

Originally Posted by Headbanger

The free-to-play movement is just one example, and of course the other big one, community funded projects,bypassing the publishers entirely

Kickstarter is a good idea, for all media!. Publishers are too demanding, restrictive & quite often moronic. So being able to bypass them can only be a good thing really... So long as we don't take a return to pumping out outter shit like what saw the great console crash of the 80's... ET anyone?

**BuzzardNZ** · 12th February 2013, 11:39

Originally Posted by Headbanger

I don't have a high end gaming rig, and I can run Skyrim at 1080p with every single setting maxed out.

Load times are too quick to read the text on the loading screens, The games runs as smoooooooooooth as butter, and it looks fucking stunning.

If someone can't see the difference between this and the console version then they are either delusion, full of shit, or blind to the point they need glasses.

The load times for Skyrim on the PS3 are what killed this game for me. On average 10 to 40 seconds

**Headbanger** · 12th February 2013, 11:55

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

... So long as we don't take a return to pumping out outter shit

We already have that happening right now on the Android platform.

**Scuba_Steve** · 12th February 2013, 12:39

Originally Posted by BuzzardNZ

The load times for Skyrim on the PS3 are what killed this game for me. On average 10 to 40 seconds

I miss load times, used to go make a coffee while my game was loading... it's all too fast for that now

Originally Posted by Headbanger

We already have that happening right now on the Android platform.

touche

**BuzzardNZ** · 12th February 2013, 14:50

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

I miss load times, used to go make a coffee while my game was loading... it's all too fast for that now

This is seriously how I'd play Skyrim:
1) install the disc in PS3.
2) Fill up sink and leave dirty dishes to soak a bit.
3) Play Skyrim
4) Open a door in Skyrim ( game loads ).
5) wash a dish.
6) Goto 3) Repeat until dishes done or totally pissed off with load times.

Thank goodness for Dark Souls, now that's a game they got right on the console but mucked it up for the PC.

**Scuba_Steve** · 12th February 2013, 18:27

Originally Posted by BuzzardNZ

This is seriously how I'd play Skyrim:
1) install the disc in PS3.
2) Fill up sink and leave dirty dishes to soak a bit.
3) Play Skyrim
4) Open a door in Skyrim ( game loads ).
5) wash a dish.
6) Goto 3) Repeat until dishes done or totally pissed off with load times.

Thank goodness for Dark Souls, now that's a game they got right on the console but mucked it up for the PC.

Yea ok that's too much, I was talking more like old BF Nam, MoHAA etc where I could make me a drink or grab me a feed in-between matches as the maps loaded up

**Scuba_Steve** · 21st February 2013, 11:58

Well true enough the Sony event today was PS4.
And it's confirmed it will be running modified x86 architecture (maybee you PC fanboys will start getting decent ports)
8GB of GDDR5 memory
CPU & GFX are both heavily modified PC type
it also rocks a 2nd chip exclusively to handle downloads/uploads as to not take away power from gaming and also to enable instant gaming i.e. start gaming as it still downloads
PS4 controller is still DualShock form factor but more rounded & rubberized & with addition of lightbar, share button & touchpad
There will however not be native backward compatibility (as somewhat expect given the new architecture) instead this will be the job of their Gaikai acquisition. It'll be cloud based backwards comparability
There will also be "save states" i.e. you can exit a game as said point & come back in at same point like mobile gaming
You can also share a game with a mate. If you're having trouble on a level you can send the save state through to a mate to play you through it remotely at their place on their PS4 (again Gaikai tech here)

Event still going so more to come but that's the main overview

**steve_t** · 21st February 2013, 12:13

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

Well true enough the Sony event today was PS4.
And it's confirmed it will be running modified x86 architecture (maybee you PC fanboys will start getting decent ports)
8GB of GDDR5 memory
CPU & GFX are both heavily modified PC type
it also rocks a 2nd chip exclusively to handle downloads/uploads as to not take away power from gaming and also to enable instant gaming i.e. start gaming as it still downloads
PS4 controller is still DualShock form factor but more rounded & rubberized & with addition of lightbar, share button & touchpad
There will however not be native backward compatibility (as somewhat expect given the new architecture) instead this will be the job of their Gaikai acquisition. It'll be cloud based backwards comparability
There will also be "save states" i.e. you can exit a game as said point & come back in at same point like mobile gaming
You can also share a game with a mate. If you're having trouble on a level you can send the save state through to a mate to play you through it remotely at their place on their PS4 (again Gaikai tech here)

Event still going so more to come but that's the main overview

x86 architecture?! It's a frickin PC then. 8GB shared memory?

**bogan** · 21st February 2013, 12:19

Originally Posted by steve_t

x86 architecture?! It's a frickin PC then. 8GB shared memory?

Just under 2 gflops on the GPU, in line with mid range tech (GTX 660); but thats ok cos superior architecture will get heaps more out of it, oh wait...