Bike vs Sheep, Masterton 19/01/2013

[Brian d marge]

fuck i hate sheep.

had one running beside the ute once. it took a dive underneath it. zero damage to the ute, this dumb fucking thing put it's head stright under my front wheel.

didn't quite kill the fucker, so i had to back up and have another go.

i guess the moral of the story is, sheep are fucking dumb.

I've seen a cow half jump half crash through a fence and be in the middle of the road in a blink of an eye ,I was following behind the car, Austin allegro white , who saw his maker , came back to earth , poo'd his pants all in the same heartbeat. because of leaping bull.
Road positioning and the grace of god helps a lot

Stephen

Good gear , but you don't have to go spastic on the gear front ....

[carbonhed]

I've seen a cow half jump half crash through a fence and be in the middle of the road in a blink of an eye , following. Behind the car an Austin allegro white , who say his maker , came back to earth , pood his pants all in the same heartbeat.

This post should be breathalysed and then set on fire.

[bosslady]

This post has inspired me to look at getting better quality gear

Hmmm... ditto... as well as re-think the speed at which I am riding (yes, even on a ginny).

[Crasherfromwayback]

This post should be breathalysed and then set on fire.

He's obviously not taking his own advice!

[caspernz]

Yikes, nasty crash that one. Remember seeing that reported and wondered how long it would take before a KB member would report.

Most of the bikers in this part of the country will know the bit of road it happened on, and most will have been guilty of exploiting the opportunity of a generous twist of the wrist on that stretch...and I for one won't pass judgment on the speed question

Good to see and hear you've survived as well as you have, good gear makes the difference

But yeah, like the email Pete put up, lots of dangers on them Wairarapa backroads, so while I travel on them...it's at mostly sedate speeds...most of the time anyway

But the most disturbing aspect is you putting the insurance money down on a house you could have gone to see Pete to buy a Milwaukee tractor...that would make a sheep feel like a cats eye or at worst...a possum

[Brian d marge]

This post should be breathalysed and then set on fire.

that was typed out on an ipad , the spelling and grammar are from apple , no alcohol was harmed in the making of said post

Stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

that was typed out on an ipad , the spelling and grammar are from apple , no alchol was harmed in the making of said post

Stephen

Try it again pissed then!

[p.dath]

I'm glad to hear your ok and recovering. You're going to be a bit of stick posting here.

How the hell did you slide down the road for 100m if you were doing anything even remotely near the speed limit?
How? Seriously.

At 100 Km/h you are travelling 27.7m/s. After 4s you're already past the 100m point.

[Brian d marge]

Try it again pissed then!

Not 12 oclock yet

Stephen

[Mushu]

I'm glad you're ok, don't worry about the katmans out there, we have all dealt with animals on the Rd and most of the time they get out of the way but animals are unpredictable and 0.0001 percent of the time they run straight into the line - this is where road kill comes from and is often unavoidable (over the years I've hit a couple of rabbits, a possum, half a dozen or so assorted birds and 1 unfortunate cat - all unavoidable, wouldn't wanna damage the cage. Luckily nothing big enough to cause significant damage and so far only bugs on the bike)

As far as whether he was speeding as has been said 100m at 27m/s seems pretty reasonable, and assuming he hit the sheep in the optimal place to remove the head with the least effort I doubt it would require much more force than what would be necessary to throw someone over the handlebars of an r1 shearing clean through and leaving plenty of energy for the slide that followed.

[Katman]

As far as whether he was speeding as has been said 100m at 27m/s seems pretty reasonable,

27.8m/s is with the bike actually being powered along.

If you suddenly shut the throttle you would not be doing 27.8m/s.

For a body to slide (or tumble) 100 metres after impact it would suggest a speed of considerably more than 100kph.

[R650R]

Don't think illegal speeds are required to explain a body traveling 100M. 100kph is near on 30M/sec, if you pitch over the bars and drop from 3M up you'd be a third of the way there before you hit the road, still doing 100kph.

There's been worse results from a bike's concurrent juxtaposition with sheep. My only related incident was during an enduro on a big Honda, bent the forks.

Plus one on that too. Probably vicously tank slap for a bit too so hasn't necessarily hit the road straight away. Remember that bike of Pirovanos in SBK or 600s that hit the wall caught fire and carried on the length od front straight with no rider. A properly weilded machete can take animal heads off so I see no problem with a 300 brake disc attached to a 160kg bike at 100kph doing the same task.
The forks aren't bent to badly either so that suggests to me his speed was only around the 100 mark also.
Crash dynamics are never an exact science, even the experts at places like volvo get 25% variations in like for like tests.

[bogan]

At 100 Km/h you are travelling 27.7m/s. After 4s you're already past the 100m point.

Unless of course you slow down while sliding

Assuming linear deceleration thats 7.2 seconds of slide, whheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Plus one on that too. Probably vicously tank slap for a bit too so hasn't necessarily hit the road straight away. Remember that bike of Pirovanos in SBK or 600s that hit the wall caught fire and carried on the length od front straight with no rider. A properly weilded machete can take animal heads off so I see no problem with a 300 brake disc attached to a 160kg bike at 100kph doing the same task.
The forks aren't bent to badly either so that suggests to me his speed was only around the 100 mark also.
Crash dynamics are never an exact science, even the experts at places like volvo get 25% variations in like for like tests.

Damages suggested to me like it jumped, and the fairing/insturment cluster/headstock (in that order) took it through the neck. Would explain a lack of fork damage.

[Devil]

Unless of course you slow down while sliding

Assuming linear deceleration thats 7.2 seconds of slide, whheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I was just about to mention that part.

[Devil]

27.8m/s is with the bike actually being powered along.

If you suddenly shut the throttle you would not be doing 27m/s.

For a body to slide (or tumble) 100 metres after impact it would suggest a speed of considerably more than 100kph.

Yer, this is what is in my head too. The information provided to us was that he slid 100m, which would imply he's already hit the ground at that point. Not still mid slapper/on bike.