Chair of Motorcycle Safety Advisory Council

[Zedder]

WTF?? Just what do motorcycles, roads and coin got to do with an old bit of paper?

Perhaps this might help:http://www.nzcpr.com/TreatyTranspare...anuary2013.pdf

[Banditbandit]

I wrote koha not utu. Two completely different things.

Maybe so - but in the context of the discussion???

"...our country back?" Even David Rankin, the Ngapuhi leader, doubts it was "your" country and "...breeding you out of existence?" How many full blooded Maori are around now?

Yes - and how many full blooded Pakeha are left??? Intermarriage has always been the way of bringing new peopel into our society .. happened with the waka people - will happen with the newer newcomers ..

Sounds like this is one of your "I'm only playing on the internet and having fun" posts.

Yeah - I was joking ... jokes don't make a huge lot of sense when you analyse them ... but yeah .. joke - don't take it too seriously

[Banditbandit]

Blunt and repetitive is perhaps not what they need.

That's what they seem to want - a repetative "speed kils seed kills" message

I think it'd be excellent to see someone (responsible) from here do it, would feel way more confident in the whole thing that way.

Responsible?? Fuck .. will they really find that amongst this forum?

Never mind overhead cams, they went wrong with overhead valves.

Naaa .. I reckon it was the valves that did it ... give them away too - only extra weight.

[Zedder]

Maybe so - but in the context of the discussion???



Yes - and how many full blooded Pakeha are left??? Intermarriage has always been the way of bringing new peopel into our society .. happened with the waka people - will happen with the newer newcomers ..



Yeah - I was joking ... jokes don't make a huge lot of sense when you analyse them ... but yeah .. joke - don't take it too seriously

So if it was a joke, why the questions and explanation of intermarriage? "Yeah, only joking" would have been sufficient.

[Banditbandit]

So if it was a joke, why the questions and explanation of intermarriage? "Yeah, only joking" would have been sufficient.

Humour is a good way to make a point without pissing off too many people ... (Yeah - I continue to be amused by the words running across my screen ...)

[Berries]

It is possibly because Maori are under represented in motorcycle accidents. The ToW gives Maori the same rights to motorcycle accidents as to all other motorcyclists.

Now I cannot be sure that Maori ARE under represented in motorcycle accidents because it is not PC to keep such records.

OK, this should kick things back in to life. Over the last five years there were 6535 riders involved in injury crashes in dear old multicultural NZ. 78% of those riders identified themselves as European, 9% NZ Maori, 8% unknown, 3% Asian, 1% other and then all the other groups are made up of Pacific Islanders but they don’t add up to much. (The breakdown in to Cook Islanders, Fijian, Samoan, Tongan, Tokelauan and Other PI is a bit odd when they can clump half the population of the planet in to a group called Asian, but I digress).

When you look at the riders who were found to be partly or fully at fault then 77% of them were Europeans, 11% Maori, 8% unknown and 2% Asian. So ethnicity does not really jump out as a statistically significant issue when it comes to culpability which shows that the Treaty is working.

Two interesting points. Samoans are the only group who are more likely to be involved in a crash riding a moped than a motorbike, I know not why, and the other one is for all the rednecks out there. Of all the bike crashes where the rider was either on a stolen bike or evading enforcement, of which there were 106, 45% of riders were European, 40% NZ Maori and 10% unknown.

Discuss.

[Zedder]

OK, this should kick things back in to life. Over the last five years there were 6535 riders involved in injury crashes in dear old multicultural NZ. 78% of those riders identified themselves as European, 9% NZ Maori, 8% unknown, 3% Asian, 1% other and then all the other groups are made up of Pacific Islanders but they don’t add up to much. (The breakdown in to Cook Islanders, Fijian, Samoan, Tongan, Tokelauan and Other PI is a bit odd when they can clump half the population of the planet in to a group called Asian, but I digress).

When you look at the riders who were found to be partly or fully at fault then 77% of them were Europeans, 11% Maori, 8% unknown and 2% Asian. So ethnicity does not really jump out as a statistically significant issue when it comes to culpability which shows that the Treaty is working.

Two interesting points. Samoans are the only group who are more likely to be involved in a crash riding a moped than a motorbike, I know not why, and the other one is for all the rednecks out there. Of all the bike crashes where the rider was either on a stolen bike or evading enforcement, of which there were 106, 45% of riders were European, 40% NZ Maori and 10% unknown.

Discuss.

Discuss popcorn...ok. Well, it's nice with lots of butter. You can get little packets that are microwaveable which is very handy. It's very popular in movie theatres where they probably make huge profits from it. Caramel popcorn is great 'cos it's crunchy as well as flavoured.

[MIXONE]

Where's smokeu when ya need him!

[Banditbandit]

OK, this should kick things back in to life. .... Discuss.

Do we get marks for this? What's the percentage of the final mark? How many words should we have? Is it permissable to submit our discussion in te reo Māori? If we do submt in te reo who marks it? Do you expect a bibliography? If we quote anonymous sources (such as peope in this forum) can we reference the url without the name of the author?

[Banditbandit]

Where's smokeu when ya need him!

Huh ??? When do we need him ??? or Why do we need him???

[Zedder]

Do we get marks for this? What's the percentage of the final mark? How many words should we have? Is it permissable to submit our discussion in te reo Māori? If we do submt in te reo who marks it? Do you expect a bibliography? If we quote anonymous sources (such as peope in this forum) can we reference the url without the name of the author?

You left out an important aspect.

What depth of awareness of the Treaty of Waitangi should it show? You of all people should have bought this up ffs.

[bogan]

OK, this should kick things back in to life. Over the last five years there were 6535 riders involved in injury crashes in dear old multicultural NZ. 78% of those riders identified themselves as European, 9% NZ Maori, 8% unknown, 3% Asian, 1% other and then all the other groups are made up of Pacific Islanders but they don’t add up to much. (The breakdown in to Cook Islanders, Fijian, Samoan, Tongan, Tokelauan and Other PI is a bit odd when they can clump half the population of the planet in to a group called Asian, but I digress).

When you look at the riders who were found to be partly or fully at fault then 77% of them were Europeans, 11% Maori, 8% unknown and 2% Asian. So ethnicity does not really jump out as a statistically significant issue when it comes to culpability which shows that the Treaty is working.

Two interesting points. Samoans are the only group who are more likely to be involved in a crash riding a moped than a motorbike, I know not why, and the other one is for all the rednecks out there. Of all the bike crashes where the rider was either on a stolen bike or evading enforcement, of which there were 106, 45% of riders were European, 40% NZ Maori and 10% unknown.

Discuss.

Sooo, treaty awareness is knowing how to say, they are thieving cunts who can't ride, but in a nice way?

[Bald Eagle]

. Of all the bike crashes where the rider was either on a stolen bike or evading enforcement, of which there were 106, 45% of riders were European, 40% NZ Maori and 10% unknown.

Discuss.

Easy the 45% where evading enforcement and 40% where on a stolen bike.

Fully compliant with ToW.

[Zedder]

Easy the 45% where evading enforcement and 40% where on a stolen bike.

Fully compliant with ToW.

Sure, but it would be more culturally acceptable to say/write it in Te Reo.

[Bald Eagle]

Sure, but it would be more culturally acceptable to say/write it in Te Reo.

Or sign language or English - only Te Reo if it was after 1987.

(New Zealand has three official languages – English, Māori and New Zealand Sign Language.^[4] Māori gained this status with the passing of the Māori Language Act in 1987 )