Lane splitting/filtering: the legal and commonsense answers

[Madness]

Arsehole

Do you need a clip?

[Maha]

Do you need a clip?

$200 deposited into my account will be suffice.

[swbarnett]

Geez, you're a bit slow, eh? If someone ends up in A&E as a result of their inability to control their motorcycle whilst splitting it's a pretty hard way for them to find out they've ridden beyond their capabilities. Pointng the finger of blame does nothing to reduce the potential harm inflicted when a biker comes off whilst splitting, either to themselves physically or to the perception that other motorists may hold towards motorcyclists in general.

Far from it.

Listen carefully.

Imagine a motorcyclist splits in heavy traffic. Said motorcyclist clips a car mirror. Slow speed impact. Mirror checked on the way through. No harm done, no need to stop.

Now, let's assume the driver is one of the prejudice dickheads of which you speak. Perhaps they have had their mirror actually damaged by a splitting motorcyclist in the past. They catch up to the motorcyclist and run them off the road. In NO WAY is the motorcyclist that clipped their mirror (without damage) or any that have done so in the past responsible for the state of mind of the driver that lead them to attempt murder.

I AM NOT MY BROTHER'S KEEPER! I refuse to live as if all that car drivers are thick enough to believe I am (although some of them certainly will be as they're only human).

What you are talking about is no different to tarring innocent members of any other group based on the actions of a minority. It is prejudice, pure and simple. The actions of other motorcyclists are in no way responsible for how you or I get treated when we simply happen to be in the vacinity of a bigget.

[swbarnett]

Just don't listen to the cocks that claim the act of hitting mirrors as a right.

I don't believe anyone is claiming this. Just that it does happen as we're all human and doesn't always warrant an exchange of insurance details.

[swbarnett]

I do it in this household...and without a skirt on!

I used to wear a skirt quite regularly. Long in the front and short in the back with an elastic hem.



Then I would sit down and paddle away.

[FJRider]

Now thats just ''splitting'' hairs....

Are Lane splitters really just Go-betweens .. ??

[Madness]

Far from it.

Listen carefully.

Imagine a motorcyclist splits in heavy traffic. Said motorcyclist clips a car mirror. Slow speed impact. Mirror checked on the way through. No harm done, no need to stop.

Now, let's assume the driver is one of the prejudice dickheads of which you speak. Perhaps they have had their mirror actually damaged by a splitting motorcyclist in the past. They catch up to the motorcyclist and run them off the road. In NO WAY is the motorcyclist that clipped their mirror (without damage) or any that have done so in the past responsible for the state of mind of the driver that lead them to attempt murder.

I AM NOT MY BROTHER'S KEEPER! I refuse to live as if all that car drivers are thick enough to believe I am (although some of them certainly will be as they're only human).

What you are talking about is no different to tarring innocent members of any other group based on the actions of a minority. It is prejudice, pure and simple. The actions of other motorcyclists are in no way responsible for how you or I get treated when we simply happen to be in the vacinity of a bigget.

I think you must be on drugs.

Listen very carefully.

Actually don't bother as this forum has no audio. If you hear anything it'll be those pesky voices in your head again.

If a motorist is minding their own business in gridlock traffic and a biker clips their wing mirror whilst lane-splitting, regardless of wether damage has been done or not, they are likely to get annoyed. In my opinion and the opinion of normal, rational people everywhere this motorist is justified in being annoyed. They need not be a "bigget" or any other stereo-type to get annoyed as they were just a normal person minding their own fucking business when the biker physically hit their vehicle whilst splitting a lane the motorist was clearly already occupying. To suggest that if no insurance details need to be exchanged due to a lack of significant physical damage being done then there is no issue with occasionally clipping the odd mirror is incorrect. It is not o.k.

As for your denial of paint transfer following your extensive and exhaustive research (you did it twice and checked, presumably just your own mirror) that too is not the fucking point.

I'm going to paste what I posted earlier. I'm not sure if you read it or not, maybe you got distracted with all the Unicorns.

If you can't split without hitting the wing mirrors of cars you shouldn't be splitting in the first place. How would you like it if another splitting biker clipped your bike?

If a biker ends up in hospital as a result of an accident that occurred whilst they were splitting no moral self-justification or spiritual belief system (I'm struggling to describe your drivel here) will remove their physical pain or injury and the damage done to the perception of motorcyclists everywhere. They clearly fucked up, made a bad call or whatever - they shouldn't have been there, end of.

How do you think these "biggets" you speak of are created in the first place. Do you perhaps think they spent their formative years watching mummy & daddy holding up pictures of motorcycles saying "kill, kill, kill"?.

Lastly for what it's worth, I don't even know your brother. If he's anywhere near as thick as you appear I'm glad about that.

[awayatc]

I fuck up....often

Other people fuck up....all the time

you clip my mirror......

I fuck you up.....every time

That clear enough.....?

[FJRider]

claiming that I am claiming that I was just fishing when I suddenly realise that I am making myself look like a fuckwit doesnt make me any less like a fuckwit.....makes you look like a fuckwit

I don't think that post helped ...

[skippa1]

I don't think that post helped ...

im sure it didnt

doesnt really matter though aye.....its just the internet

[Maha]

I don't think that post helped ...

Reads more like confirmation to me

[dinosaur]

Arguing on KB is like cheating at the special Olympics - winning means what?

I lane split, why wouldn't you on a motorbike, its all part of the advantage

there a fuckwits in cars and on bikes, who knows why some of them have a hate on for bikers - lots of reasons, but there are also lots of fucked up units driving cars who throw a lot of hate toward buses, campervans, other cars

Tapping a wing mirror - haven't done it as far as I can remember - boot in the door of some arse who is slowely moving over so you can't get past - sure

[Jeff Sichoe]

Some of you spastics are acting like a wing mirror is your fucking kid or something

get over it, shit happens, your precious wing mirror will survive a whack or two, and if it doesn't - enjoy the ride down to pick a part to get a new one.

[imdying]

Some of you spastics are acting like a wing mirror is your fucking kid or something

get over it, shit happens, your precious wing mirror will survive a whack or two, and if it doesn't - enjoy the ride down to pick a part to get a new one.

Where do you park your bike Jeff?

[pzkpfw]

Some of you spastics are acting like a wing mirror is your fucking kid or something

get over it, shit happens, your precious wing mirror will survive a whack or two, and if it doesn't - enjoy the ride down to pick a part to get a new one.

The issue is more about the morality etc of banging other peoples mirrors.

If you don't care about your own mirrors, feel free to go to pick a part to get yourself one. Get two. Maybe three so you have a spare. Heck, upgrade to one with indimicators in it.

But do you have the "right" to force that on other people? (e.g. the car drivers it would help to stay on-side with?)