Harrasing towbars since 2007
I don't think there is any descretion for discussing 'ideas' or 'shooting the breeze' when it comes to safety related issues and motorcycle racing. Clearly the OP has a problem with the new track layout at Pukekohe and he should only discuss this through the correct chanels without posting on a public forum (regardless of weather he is a MNZ member or not).Originally Posted by codgyoleracer
Mr. Responsible
Maybe op isn't effected by it personally and thought he would post in here in case anyone on here who would be concerned about there safety can raise the issue themselves. If I saw ehat I thought was a safety issue I would post it here. But I couldn't be bothered chasing it up when it doesnt effect meand others could follow it up.
Rider in training
Let's see, do I have:
* Something offensive to say that may be considered legally indecent, no.
* Libel, no.
* Something racist or a breach of the bill of rights, no.
* Something that may breach privacy laws, no.
* Ethically questionable to myself, no.
* A contractual commitment controlling what I can say, such as a MNZ membership, no.
Hmm, it seems I (and many others) are free to say what they want on the issue to whomever will care to listen then.
Harrasing towbars since 2007
Well....it's pretty hard to argue against this list. I suppose you should also add:Let's see, do I have:
* Something offensive to say that may be considered legally indecent, no.
* Libel, no.
* Something racist or a breach of the bill of rights, no.
* Something that may breach privacy laws, no.
* Ethically questionable to myself, no.
* A contractual commitment controlling what I can say, such as a MNZ membership, no.
Hmm, it seems I (and many others) and free to say what they want on the issue to whomever will care to listen then.
*inciting anger/hatred/violence
The last point in your list you made I found interesting. Care to elaborate?
Saving the goat....
...and I guess thats the downside of KB. Allowing everyone to comment on every issue even if they're not affected/controlled by the outcome. Ah yes, the joys of internet forums. Take them with a pinch of shit.
The last point I guess he's refering to is MNZ's 'Code of Conduct' rule.
I guess, racers should just use the new forum Billy is going to set up. Problem solved.
Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??
Hardcore Biker
zachary .............
Harrasing towbars since 2007
Off topic alert!!
Absolutely agree with having a racer specific forum. As you may remember Quasimoto and myself tried setting one up a couple of years back however like many things that involve active participation by racers, this site soon died. The problem of course is the new mnz forum billy is setting up still does not address the issue that this site will still be frequented by many and many issues will still be discussed here...some of which will be controversial from some people's point of view. I agree, what is said on kb should be taken as a grain of salt however once people know your identity it seems you no longer can hide behind annominity. This seems to result in the poster being held accountable for your opinion regardless if that is exactly all it is...your opinion.
Anyway, off topic; I still maintain safety issues need to be taken up directly with mnz as this is the expected process to instigate change...even if you only wanted to discuss whether change is required with your peers.
gee wizzz
Billy and I will have to agree to disagree on this subject. Yep a dedicated "racer only" forum makes sense no question whatsoever. Theres some "dirty laundry" arguably that OSH and the general media shouldn't be aware of untill a solution is in place.
But Im a firm believer in the mantra that it doesn't matter where an idea comes from. A good idea is a good idea.
On that basis Im really keen on discussing race issues on a public forum.
I got into a truck load of trouble a few years back for posting this thread in general rather than the race forum
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...54#post1294354
I wanted to know really what it would take to bring the general BIKER population to a race meeting -let alone the normal petrolhead public.
The feedback from people who DON'T go to meetings I feel was fantastic.
KG and the team from AMCC listened to the feedback I think.(or maybee its wishfull thinking that Ive helped road racing in NZ a tiny bit)
THIS situation reminds me of the story I heard a long time ago.
An idiot truck driver had firmly jammed his truck in under a bridge.The police,the engineers,the fire service -Nobody could work out how to get the darn thing out without ripping the bridge to bits.
Then a lil kid pipes up and says --"why not let the air out of the tyres?
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Not sure why I would disagree with the bulk of that post....Except the very last sentence,Why wasn't that smartarse little pratt at school and who elses tyres had he been letting down ????
Hardcore Biker
probably pinchin the alloy valve caps .........
Saving the goat....
....after he'd syphoned the diesel......
Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??
Rider in training
Many club and organisations have a set of rules that you sign when you become a member, and it is not uncommon to have a "gag" clause, preventing people from speaking out publicly.
I don't know if MNZ has such a clause or not, since I am not a member.
Saving the goat....
Is that like a marriage licence???
Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??
i'm motarded
why do you hate me? answer your phone.Is that like a marriage licence???
Jam and tarts....
You must not speak of race club!
Out of interest, what are the barriers directly behind the barriers made of? I do understand the lack of run off sucks, but there's not exactly much run off to speak of there anyway
Alloy, stainless and Ti polishing.
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