Lane splitting/filtering: the legal and commonsense answers

[Subike]

Or tyre pressure, or ferked steering head bearings, or sad fork springs. Bazillions of reasons why two identical not new bikes handle differently.

Fair comment, New tires, as just stated, both bnikes have been on the road just over a year, , a weeping right front fork seal on the loaner.
But as for not new...when in your opinion does a bike not be new, Both have just passed their 2nd WOF.

[Katman]

Fair comment, New tires, as just stated, both bnikes have been on the road just over a year, , a weeping right front fork seal on the loaner.
But as for not new...when in your opinion does a bike not be new, Both have just passed their 2nd WOF.

Dude, they're fucking Keeways.

Consistency is probably listed highly on their company charter.

[Subike]

Dude, they're fucking Keeways.

Consistency is probably not their strongpoint.

Thats an assumption . Let you off the hook, the angle of the handle bars....as for their strong points, look at the mileage of other bikes being repaired....its sickening to see, triumph, suzukis, yamanha, bla bla bla, all getting parts replaced under warrentee within the first 12 mths, and hardly done 10k...The make of the bike has nothing to do with it. Its the set up and the maintenance.
Right my point being.
Where your handle bars are set , is it within the range of 750 - 900mm, which is the range of average wing mirrors on passenger vehicles.
An adventure bike is set higher, its mirrors are probably 300mm above that, where your bars and mirrors are set, the will either go over, under or hit mirrors.. the loaners bars were set in an upright position, mine are set in a laid back position.. difference of 200mm from the ground to the mirror, I was use to lower bars, thus working the gaps differently.

[FJRider]

a weeping right front fork seal on the loaner.
But as for not new...when in your opinion does a bike not be new, Both have just passed their 2nd WOF.

And what was the rest of the suspension like .. ??? and how stringent are they on suspension set-ups during WoF checks.

Seldom are bikes of the same model, same age, same tyres, same mileage ... similar in handling.

Unless they've been ridden in a similar manner. And even then unlikely ..

[Tigadee]

Do you? lane split? if so, have you ever clipped a car? and what did you do about it, nothing I guess? what can you really do if it's almost bumper to bumper on all lanes for quite a few ks? just asking...

Came across this:


Is it me or do American road lanes appear wider?

[Katman]

Thats an assumption . Let you off the hook, the angle of the handle bars....as for their strong points, look at the mileage of other bikes being repaired....its sickening to see, triumph, suzukis, yamanha, bla bla bla, all getting parts replaced under warrentee within the first 12 mths, and hardly done 10k...The make of the bike has nothing to do with it. Its the set up and the maintenance.
Right my point being.
Where your handle bars are set , is it within the range of 750 - 900mm, which is the range of average wing mirrors on passenger vehicles.
An adventure bike is set higher, its mirrors are probably 300mm above that, where your bars and mirrors are set, the will either go over, under or hit mirrors.. the loaners bars were set in an upright position, mine are set in a laid back position.. difference of 200mm from the ground to the mirror, I was use to lower bars, thus working the gaps differently.

Dude, I have a customer with a Keeway Supershadow (that had less than 10,000kms on the clock and never been in an accident) that had it's handlebars crack completely in two places between the clamps at either end of the oval cutout in the bars.

Best you have a closer look at yours.

[Subike]

Dude, I have a customer with a Keeway Supershadow (that had less than 10,000kms on the clock and never been in an accident) that had it's handlebars crack completely in two places between the clamps at either end of the oval cutout in the bars.

Best you have a closer look at yours.

Been there done that, its not a worry, was made aware of that possibility visa the net and talking to other owners......Next?

[cheshirecat]

Won't be one thing rather a whole raft of small stuff, like fork oil, tyre profile after wear, chain tension/sprocket wear etc. When filtering one tends (hopes) to be placing the bike with some precision and it tends to be upright placing emphasis on how it tracks on a well used part of the tyres. Your brain will be relying on subconcious subroutines and will be panicking when they don't match up to the the new imput. Be interesting when your bike returns. My theory anyway

[Subike]

Won't be one thing rather a whole raft of small stuff, like fork oil, tyre profile after wear, chain tension/sprocket wear etc. When filtering one tends (hopes) to be placing the bike with some precision and it tends to be upright placing emphasis on how it tracks on a well used part of the tyres. Your brain will be relying on subconcious subroutines and will be panicking when they don't match up to the the new imput. Be interesting when your bike returns. My theory anyway

Thanks an informative post

[scumdog]

look at the mileage of other bikes being repaired....its sickening to see, triumph, suzukis, yamanha, bla bla bla, all getting parts replaced under warrentee within the first 12 mths, and hardly done 10k...T.

Comments like that worry me, at over 5 times that distance and only one gear-box seal needing replaced I have to wonder "what is wrong with my bike?"

[paturoa]

Comments like that worry me, at over 5 times that distance and only one gear-box seal needing replaced I have to wonder "what is wrong with my bike?"

I read dazza's thread, he replaced way more that just a seal on the XN!

[Subike]

Comments like that worry me, at over 5 times that distance and only one gear-box seal needing replaced I have to wonder "what is wrong with my bike?"

"what is wrong with my bike" nothing Tom, its called 100 years of making the same motor design, and improving it each year, not making a motor each year and improving it by making another the following year. In my opinion.

[FJRider]

"what is wrong with my bike" nothing Tom, its called 100 years of making the same motor design, and improving it each year, not making a motor each year and improving it by making another the following year. In my opinion.

The design of the V twin engine ... HD have been putting in their bikes for the last 100 years ... has changed considerably. The worth of any changes and/or improvements to the various models ... is subject to frequent and loud debate by owners/riders ... and every other man (and his bitch) ... that ever threw a leg over one (or NOT) ...

If you own a bike ... and ride it ... and like riding it ... it's a far better option than not riding.

Some bikes have what some call "issues" ... others call them "character" .. and that's how they like it.

My bike has "character issues" that I can live with and enjoy.

So I do.

[Madness]

I accept it as a very infrequent part of learning to ride a motorcycle.

I and many others find it quite unacceptable. A motorcyclist should already posess the required bike control, situational awareness and respect towards other road users before attempting to split lanes if they are to do so successfully and and without making themselves look like ignorant cunts.

[Phantom Limb]

I'm constantly bitching about riders going too fast when lane splitting (over 40KPh is probably too fast to stop in a car length).
However, I got stuck behind a wobbly on a RS250 this morning who would not leave 1st gear and panic braked when a car so much as twitched. Really, that was annoying!