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[Mushu]

Suffer from morning sickness a lot, do ya?

Well, obviously not, nor have I had bone tumors, cancer and I have been told MS isn't hereditary so I should be relatively safe from that too. That doesn't change the fact that THC is the least invasive and most effective medication for all of the above.

as stated, I have used it to alleviate pain from ligament damage and to regulate insomnia.

Edit: and to get fuckin' high. Oh, and it seems to make girls horny (in my experience)

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[ducatilover]

Since most of the arguments in this thread seem to be bullshit, here's my 2c.

While mostly I do want to be able to just have a blaze while I watch a movie or play playstation, I also (myself) use pot to alleviate pain (better for you than codiene) and to regulate insomnia.

I also have personal experience of how it helps multiple sclerosis sufferers (far better than any prescribed meds), and it's good for nausea (morning sickness / chemotherapy) it can stop / slow the growth of certain tumors.

And given it's illegal and grown by gangs mostly it gives them a huge source of (non taxed) income. And makes it more available to minors.

Still yet to see one good reason why it is illegal.

Currently I don't smoke but only so I can pass piss tests. But as an alternative I currently have a whiskey bottle in my hand (give me back my Mary Jane anyday).

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Legalising it will not, in any way, change how it's available to anyone.
It'll still be grown and sold un-taxed.
MS and pot http://www.nationalmssociety.org/abo...ana/index.aspx
I know of one person in particular, rather close to me, who was diagnosed with MS over 20 years ago so anything that helps is a subject of interest to me.
But, as far as I can tell it only helps when she's under the influence, and that's beyond her financial measures and is beyond any help I can give (that shit's expensive!)

[Laava]

Well, obviously not, nor have I had bone tumors, cancer and I have been told MS isn't hereditary so I should be relatively safe from that too. That doesn't change the fact that THC is the least invasive and most effective medication for all of the above.

as stated, I have used it to alleviate pain from ligament damage and to regulate insomnia.

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My wife has cancer and has had a tumour removed recently. There are no doctors that will tell you that cannabis is the best medication. You don't seriously believe that do you?

[Mushu]

Legalising it will not, in any way, change how it's available to anyone.
It'll still be grown and sold un-taxed.
MS and pot http://www.nationalmssociety.org/abo...ana/index.aspx
I know of one person in particular, rather close to me, who was diagnosed with MS over 20 years ago so anything that helps is a subject of interest to me.
But, as far as I can tell it only helps when she's under the influence, and that's beyond her financial measures and is beyond any help I can give (that shit's expensive!)

seriously, give her some, even if it only works while she's high, she will appreciate a break from the shakes. (depending on her state of advancement, it probably won't stop them but it helps a lot)

And I'm very sorry to hear that, nobody should go through it. it is horrible.

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[Madness]

My wife has cancer and has had a tumour removed recently. There are no doctors that will tell you that cannabis is the best medication. You don't seriously believe that do you?

Doctors generally rely upon what they are taught. That said, my partners Oncologist suggested she take up tobacco again once to cope with stress, he himself a smoker. Truefuckingstory.

[Mushu]

My wife has cancer and has had a tumour removed recently. There are no doctors that will tell you that cannabis is the best medication. You don't seriously believe that do you?

It's not the best medicine for cancer, but it is very good for the nausea caused by chemotherapy.
And as I understand it it only slows / stops growth in some types of tumors.
Also, as implied by madness, doctors are fed the same voodoo pharmacology as the rest of us.

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[Mushu]

Doctors generally rely upon what they are taught. That said, my partners Oncologist suggested she take up tobacco again once to cope with stress, he himself a smoker. Truefuckingstory.

My mother (who had MS) was told not to bother giving up tobacco by her doctor.

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[ducatilover]

seriously, give her some, even if it only works while she's high, she will appreciate a break from the shakes. (depending on her state of advancement, it probably won't stop them but it helps a lot)

And I'm very sorry to hear that, nobody should go through it. it is horrible.

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It is indeed a very sad thing for somebody to be suffering from


She's smoked plenty and doesn't find a huge benefit from it. And in no way as wonderful as the hype makes out
I've been around a shit load of this, and I see not proper supporting evidence that it is beneficial in any way with the exception of pain relief, which can be had legally and to better effect.


http://cifas.us/sites/cifas.drupalga...dicine%200.pdf
http://www.nationalmssociety.org/abo...ana/index.aspx
Two interesting (and factual) articles.

There is also one negative to the relief it can bring, that nobody mentions, except the patients, which gets ignored by the only people willing to promote medi marijuana use:
When the patient is "sober" again and back to their horrible reality, it becomes worse for them. It's fucking horrible to see somebody in that ship

I'm not saying don't do it, or don't recommend it. I'm saying, it's not a wonder drug

[ducatilover]

It's not the best medicine for cancer, but it is very good for the nausea caused by chemotherapy.
And as I understand it it only slows / stops growth in some types of tumors.
Also, as implied by madness, doctors are fed the same voodoo pharmacology as the rest of us.

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I would not reccomend inhaling something with unknown origins, purity and/or possible fungal shit (grow yer own I suppose?) when there are drugs available with synthetic THC in them

edit: I'll expand (like a penis) on that.
Your immune system is weak when you've had/having chemo and it'd be wise not to smoke anything while your immune system is rooted.
But, you could probably have some magic pure stuff?

[Mushu]

It is indeed a very sad thing for somebody to be suffering from


She's smoked plenty and doesn't find a huge benefit from it. And in no way as wonderful as the hype makes out
I've been around a shit load of this, and I see not proper supporting evidence that it is beneficial in any way with the exception of pain relief, which can be had legally and to better effect.


http://cifas.us/sites/cifas.drupalga...dicine%200.pdf
http://www.nationalmssociety.org/abo...ana/index.aspx
Two interesting (and factual) articles.

There is also one negative to the relief it can bring, that nobody mentions, except the patients, which gets ignored by the only people willing to promote medi marijuana use:
When the patient is "sober" again and back to their horrible reality, it becomes worse for them. It's fucking horrible to see somebody in that ship

I'm not saying don't do it, or don't recommend it. I'm saying, it's not a wonder drug

Once a certain point is reached (in the disease) there is no notable difference after they become sober again but I have seen with my own eyes how it can help the obvious symptoms to an amazing degree. my reference was a very advanced case at the time and she was not aware she was stoned. (it took her life 6 months later)

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[ducatilover]

Once a certain point is reached (in the disease) there is no notable difference after they become sober again but I have seen with my own eyes how it can help the obvious symptoms to an amazing degree. my reference was a very advanced case at the time and she was not aware she was stoned. (it took her life 6 months later)

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Well, the other thing here is everyone is different.
She does find it helps pain and stops her from noticing the muscle issues, but it does not stop them (for her) and either way, she cannot afford it and I am not in a position where I can afford it for her.
I'm sorry to hear it mate, it's a fucked up thing MS.

[Mushu]

Legalising it will not, in any way, change how it's available to anyone.
It'll still be grown and sold un-taxed.

Legalising it and selling it taxed with a price to undercut the market, the lower you go the lower gangs would have to go to acually sell it (who would go to the mob for what you can get at the dairy - with guaranteed quality) and how many people are going to grow what you can get at the dairy, I'll grant some will but the black market for pot would shrink significantly.

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[Madness]

...either way, she cannot afford it and I am not in a position where I can afford it for her.
I'm sorry to hear it mate, it's a fucked up thing MS.

You could grow some for her, to ease the pain and for no benefit or use of your own. It literally grows itself and requires little human intervention to ensure top quality. It'd work a treat, so long as nobody dobbed you in for growing a couple of plants. Oh, wait...

[ducatilover]

You could grow some for her, to ease the pain and for no benefit or use of your own. It'd work a treat, so long as nobody dobbed you in for growing a couple of plants. Oh, wait...

I'm pretty sure you'd dob me in for a laugh (I haven't got any kids) and it's a wee bit illegal for me. I'm a pure person and never do anything illegal.

Legalising it and selling it taxed with a price to undercut the market, the lower you go the lower gangs would have to go to acually sell it (who would go to the mob for what you can get at the dairy - with guaranteed quality) and how many people are going to grow what you can get at the dairy, I'll grant some will but the black market for pot would shrink significantly.

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One can only hope eh?

[Madness]

I'm pretty sure you'd dob me in for a laugh.

Doug, I'm hurt.