I believe in gay marriage

[FJRider]

Yeah, just look at Smokeu.

Thing is, who wants to looks like him in 20 years time?

Start another poll and ask. But I'm guessing ... you don't really want to know.

Sadly ... he does have the right to be like that. Regardless on how stupid, inane ... or simply obnoxious as it is.

[husaberg]

Well it has to be changed, otherwise it would no longer be applicable in light of the culture/law changes. Are you opposed to all changes? or just this one?

Bogan you missed a couple of pages. What i are pointing out is in reference to the claims that the word has always meant a relationship regardless of sexual orientation, when it has only ever meant a formal relationship between a man and a women.

I don't like in this case the change of the meaning of the word. Any bill that gives equal rights of adaption regardless of orientation etc for sure i totally support this.(This is where the civil union was, i believe compromised) It is just the change in word meaning i don't.

[Katman]

I don't like in this case the change of the meaning of the word. Any bill that gives equal rights of adaption regardless of orientation etc for sure i totally support this.(This is where the civil union was, i believe compromised) It is just the change in word meaning i don't.

So it appears you place greater importance on the couple being different sex than the couple commiting to love and support one another.

I think your definition of marriage leaves a lot to be desired.

[bogan]

Bogan you missed a couple of pages. What i are pointing out is in reference to the claims that the word has always meant a relationship regardless of sexual orientation, when it has only ever meant a formal relationship between a man and a women.

I don't like in this case the change of the meaning of the word. Any bill that gives equal rights of adaption regardless of orientation etc for sure i totally support this.(This is where the civil union was, i believe compromised) It is just the change in word meaning i don't.

I think we are all aware of that, hence the discussion about the adjustment of its meaning. It still means the same thing for those already included by the definition, so I'm wondering why people object to this change. Or is it just on principal the the meaning of words shouldn't ever be changed or updated?

[husaberg]

So it appears you place greater importance on the couple being different sex than the couple commiting to love and support one another.

I think your definition of marriage leaves a lot to be desired.

As always if anyone disagrees with the minority they are attacked with the insinuation that you must therefore be a bigot.
Subversion, i thought that was meant to be the domain exclusively of the bigots.

Read the polls the public opinion is evenly divided. Far more so than people want to admit. Why is that?

Asked what best fitted their view on marriage law, 48 per cent of those polled said marriage should remain between a man and a woman - an increase of 7.5 percentage points from a poll last June.

I think we are all aware of that, hence the discussion about the adjustment of its meaning. It still means the same thing for those already included by the definition, so I'm wondering why people object to this change. Or is it just on principal the the meaning of words shouldn't ever be changed or updated?

I don't know ask the other 48% of the population that agree with my point of view.

A fridge is a fridge, an oven is an oven, and never a fridge will an oven be................

[Katman]

As always if anyone disagrees with the minority they are attacked with the insinuation that you must therefore be a bigot.
Subversion, i thought that was meant to be the domain exclusively of the bigots.

Read the polls the public opinion is evenly divided. Far more so than people want to admit. Why is that?

Dude, that wasn't an attack.

It was merely an observation.

[husaberg]

Dude, that wasn't an attack.

It was merely an observation.

With an insulation, as was your last reply. that picked one part and ignored the sentiment cause it suited your opinion.

So it appears you place greater importance on the couple being different sex than the couple commiting to love and support one another.

I think your definition of marriage leaves a lot to be desired.

This is what you replied to my quote i have included the whole quote.

Well it has to be changed, otherwise it would no longer be applicable in light of the culture/law changes. Are you opposed to all changes? or just this one?

Bogan you missed a couple of pages. What i are pointing out is in reference to the claims that the word has always meant a relationship regardless of sexual orientation, when it has only ever meant a formal relationship between a man and a women.

I don't like in this case the change of the meaning of the word. Any bill that gives equal rights of adaption regardless of orientation etc for sure i totally support this.(This is where the civil union was, i believe compromised) It is just the change in word meaning i don't.

[bogan]

I don't know ask the other 48% of the population that agree with my point of view.

A fridge is a fridge, an oven is an oven, and never a fridge will an oven be................

Well they're not here so I am asking you.

Exactly, which is why that is a really shit example, a gay couple can do everything that a straight couple can do. A better example is that ovens used to refer to the wood fired versions, now its electric elements and microwaves too; I wonder if they had to update the dictionary definition there?

[Katman]

With an insulation, as was your last reply. that picked one part and ignored the sentiment cause it suited your opinion.

Insulation?

Do you mean insinuation?

[husaberg]

Insulation?

Do you mean insinuation?

I certainly did, do you need more time for a response?

Well they're not here so I am asking you.

Exactly, which is why that is a really shit example, a gay couple can do everything that a straight couple can do. A better example is that ovens used to refer to the wood fired versions, now its electric elements and microwaves too; I wonder if they had to update the dictionary definition there?

Can't speak for the population.
I stand by the original analogy. An oven is still an oven. Fridge and oven Even though live in the kitchen and both have insulation,both are very important in food preparation, neither is more or less worthy than the other.


A truly enlighten society appreciate the differences in all its members. Rather than trying change things in an effort to make people feel better about their differences. Variety is the spice of life etc.

[Katman]

I certainly did, do you need more time for a response?

Dude, if you're struggling to understand the difference between retaining warmth and making a subtle suggestion, you're probably out of your depth here.

[mashman]

A truly enlightened society ACCEPTS the differences in all its members. Trying to change things in an effort to make people feel better about their differences. Variety is the spice of life etc.

Just a wee tweak there sir.

[bogan]

Can't speak for the population.
I stand by the original analogy. An oven is still an oven.
A truly enlighten society appreciate the differences in all its members. Rather than trying change things in an effort to make people feel less insecure about their differences

Yup, and due to changes in culture, its definition has been expanded to include the microwave ovens too.
Funny thing there, is it can be argued it's insecurities about differences that seem to be one of the big reasons there is so much opposition to it. A truly enlightened society treats all its members as equals, and that seems to be all they want.

[husaberg]

Dude, if you're struggling to understand the difference between retaining warmth and making a subtle suggestion, you're probably out of your depth here.

Spell check auto corrects words.
I certainly understand the difference. Do you understand how petty your augment you just put forward is. Maybe you should put forward a valid augment. fight the position rather than the player.
Need more time..........

[Katman]

fight the position rather than the player.

I'm a lover not a fighter.