Nice little earner, says Peter Dunne

[FJRider]

oh yea obviously, i meant when there pointed at oncoming traffic

If the vehicle can be correctly identified without the rego plate being seen ... A traffic infringement notice can be issued.

Those with a distinctive paint/motorcycle/apparel ... enjoy the right to be different ... while you can.

[scumdog]

Amazing how many cops exceed the speed limit and get off the tickets . Jerks !!!

Tell me this amazing figure..go on tell me...

[Scuba_Steve]

Tell me this amazing figure..go on tell me...

at-least 1,623 between 2005-2010, don't know more recent figures.
Oh, and of-course they're only the recorded ones...

[FJRider]

at-least 1,623 between 2005-2010, don't know more recent figures.
Oh, and of-course they're only the recorded ones...

Were these all ticketed in "Work" vehicles in "Work" time ... or off duty .. ???

[rastuscat]

at-least 1,623 between 2005-2010, don't know more recent figures.
Oh, and of-course they're only the recorded ones...

Dude. Now tell us how many non police got warnings in their own private cars? How many of the cops you say got warnings were acting in execution of their duty?

Still, just quote the stats you want. It helps your case.

[scumdog]

at-least 1,623 between 2005-2010, don't know more recent figures.
Oh, and of-course they're only the recorded ones...

Straight from the '100%-accurate-KB-archives' as recorded by SkidMark huh??

[rastuscat]

One of the guys in our office got pinged at 62 in a work car. Sucked it up and paid the fine. It's easier to just pay the $80 than to write all the nonsense, bollocks reports it takes to have the fine waived. Sad thing is he is a straight shooter who just paid up as he couldn't honestly remember what he was doing 6 weeks earlier. That's how long it takes to get the ticket through on a work car.

[Berg]

One of the guys in our office got pinged at 62 in a work car. Sucked it up and paid the fine. It's easier to just pay the $80 than to write all the nonsense, bollocks reports it takes to have the fine waived. Sad thing is he is a straight shooter who just paid up as he couldn't honestly remember what he was doing 6 weeks earlier. That's how long it takes to get the ticket through on a work car.

Yep, two of ours have had tickets in the past few years and had to pay them as they couldn't prove they were urgent duty driving at the time. As for out of work time on my bike or in my car, I'm as much a target as the next guy (maybe more so after upsetting one of our highway guys).

[Scuba_Steve]

Were these all ticketed in "Work" vehicles in "Work" time ... or off duty .. ???

I'm assuming work vehicles, work time.

Dude. Now tell us how many non police got warnings in their own private cars? How many of the cops you say got warnings were acting in execution of their duty?

Still, just quote the stats you want. It helps your case.

yea, don't know. The writeup didn't really have much more than I put here, other than to say another 1251 cops paid their speeding scam

Straight from the '100%-accurate-KB-archives' as recorded by SkidMark huh??

No from OIA request courtesy of the Otago Daily Times/NZ Herald

[McFatty1000]

Seeing as a few of the local police are posting on this, who sets where the cameras are set up?

[scumdog]

Seeing as a few of the local police are posting on this, who sets where the cameras are set up?

Not the local Police, that's for sure...

[rastuscat]

Seeing as a few of the local police are posting on this, who sets where the cameras are set up?

The sites are determined by a committee normally including NZTA, Police, ACC, Automobile Association, local body road safety people. They are based on crash risk, determined by historical crash data.

Each district has a different method of deploying it's vans to their list of sites, so can't comment on that specific one.

Traffic camera productivity is measured in hours of operation at district level. I'm sure someone somewhere counts the tickets, but at district level it's hours that count.

Just though some facts would be handy.

[FJRider]

In recent weeks there was a thread about a fixed camera in the Ngauranga gorge ...

I found this snippet at STUFF ...

It's already the most notorious speed camera in Wellington, and it's just got a whole lot smarter.
The camera beside State Highway 1 in Ngauranga Gorge has been upgraded to a digital version that can spot speeding cars across all six lanes, uphill and downhill, and can tell whether one car among several others is speeding.
It uses radar and laser-based technology, and has a flash that cannot be seen by the human eye. It is being tested at Ngauranga Gorge with a view to extending the technology to other high-risk speeding sites.
Police insist the switch to digital is not a revenue-gathering exercise, but rather a move to a more efficient and cost-effective system.
"I would hope tickets go down, because an indication of success is when you get a change in behaviour," calibration services manager Inspector Mark Stables said.
"If people are travelling under the speed limit, there's absolutely nothing to worry about."
About 70,000 trips are made up and down Ngauranga Gorge each day.
The previous camera, replaced in the past couple of weeks, used film that had to be taken away and developed, and was triggered by sensors buried below the road. It was able to monitor only southbound traffic, which was deemed to be the highest crash risk.
If the speed limit in the gorge is changed temporarily, the new camera can be adjusted remotely, whereas the old one had to be changed manually.
Data from the digital cameras can be downloaded electronically to a central hub, rather than someone having to visit each site to change the film. The cameras are also cheaper to run.
National manager for road policing Superintendent Carey Griffiths would not reveal the cost of the upgrade because of commercial sensitivity.
"But when compared with the social, financial and human costs of excess speed on our roads, this technology represents a very good investment."
Film has been used in all speed cameras since 1993. Mobile cameras used by police are already digital.
The new camera was trialled first on the Hutt Road, but has now been moved to the gorge, which is the 13th busiest speed camera site in the country. Police issued 3830 tickets to speeding drivers in the year to June 30.
The busiest camera is on SH1 at Sanson, in Manawatu, where 12,106 tickets were issued in the same period.
Police do not record the amount of revenue collected by each speed camera, but Mr Griffiths said there was "strong evidence" that cameras encouraged drivers to slow down, and reduced crashes.

[pritch]

From casual observation, no statistics at all, I very much doubt that the camera vans are parked at accident black spots. More like long straights at the northern and southern approaches to the province. When I see them in town they are usually parked on a hill.

As for cops giving cops tickets, several who ride bikes have told me that, if speeding, they take the same chances as the rest of us.

I was enjoying a beer with a judge the other night and he mentioned getting stopped by an HP car. When the cop saw who it was, he chuckled.
The judge assuming this meant the cop was in a good mood, thought he may get off with a warning. No such luck, he got the paperwork.

I found that quite heartwarming.

[Berries]

The sites are determined by a committee normally including NZTA, Police, ACC, Automobile Association, local body road safety people. They are based on crash risk, determined by historical crash data.

The original sites certainly started off that way, back when they actually signed speed camera areas. The process slackened off a bit when the signs got dropped and now people are correct that mobile speed cameras are being used in areas with no speed related crash history. Just wait until they start dropping the open road speed limits to 80 and 90km/h and see what happens. I would recommend people read the latest Safer Journeys action plan. It talks of "reframing the road safety conversation" and my favourite, the "hypothecation of infringement revenue for specific road safety initiatives." Sweet.

Personally I think speed limit compliance would be improved if they still had the speed camera signs up so that a) you knew they might be there and b) that you probably should knock it back a bit due to the history of crashes in the area, you know, self enforcing. Unfortunately if everyone complied with the speed limits there would be a massive drop in Government income and they wouldn't want that. What would they hypothecate with?