MotoGP 2013

[codgyoleracer]

Yeah. MM so reminds me of Stoner that I don't even miss him! (Sorry Casey).

I pissed myself at the commentators when they were wanking on about how MM was overly aggressive there...and may be penalised under the new points off system. FFS. Years ago, when Rossi did a far worse move on Sete Gibernau...he was hailed as a hero!

Lorenzo should've shut the door knowing full well MM was coming. And once he saw he was there...should've shut the thing down and come back up the inside of MM as he was obviously gonna run way deep. Sorry Lorenzo...I'm a huge fan...but epic fail by you. No one else to blame.

Very similar move, but MM lifted about a third of the way in............ A bit naughty ?, Dunno, none of em are there to fuck spiders aye.

[Drew]

GO PEDRO!!!

Everyone slammed Rossi last year for lunging too far back, and taking out Stoner in the rain at the same track, but it's OK for MM because...

If Lorenzo had realised how tight it was gonna be, he could have turned later after MM had run wide and taken the spot back. It wasn't a dodgy move, it was ambitious, and it paid off.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Very similar move, but MM lifted about a third of the way in............ A bit naughty ?, Dunno, none of em are there to fuck spiders aye.

I've watching about 20 odd times via Moto GP.com...they've shown replays from every angle etc etc. And to me, there's no way on earth MM did anything wrong other than run it in too hot once the door was left open for him to try. I think if anything...Lorenzo tried to lean on him and shut the door once it was way too late. Trying to upload a screen grab I taook of the site...but it's not playing the game...sorted! Have a look at this pic...and tell me Lorenzo didn't fuck it up and wasn't the one coming in on top of MM?

GO PEDRO!!!

Everyone slammed Rossi last year for lunging too far back, and taking out Stoner in the rain at the same track, but it's OK for MM because...

.

Agree. Go Pedro...awesome race by him.

But I don't really think you can compare decking your bike and skittling someone with it to taking an open invitation to put it up the iside mate.

MM is in hot...Lorenzo MUST'VE seen him by now...should've simply let MM run it in way too deep and shot back inside of him a la Stoner vs Rossi somany times in 08...and dealt to him. Of course...this is why I'm better than Lorenzo right? Fucking fast from my keyboard! :-) But seriously...bad racecraft form Lorenzo I feel.

[codgyoleracer]

[QUOTE=Crasherfromwayback;1130542369]I've watching about 20 odd times via Moto GP.com...they've shown replays from every angle etc etc. And to me, there's no way on earth MM did anything wrong other than run it in too hot once the door was left open for him to try. I think if anything...Lorenzo tried to lean on him and shut the door once it was way too late. Trying to upload a screen grab I taook of the site...but it's not playing the game...sorted! Have a look at this pic...and tell me Lorenzo didn't fuck it up and wasn't the one coming in on top of MM?



Yip, def got a nose well in front there aye

[Dave-]

As always the onus is on the passing party to do so safely.

Was it done safely?

[Crasherfromwayback]

As always the onus is on the passing party to do so safely.

Was it done safely?

Go back and have a look at the screen grab pic I posted. No way it's anything other than a clean safe pass. Lorenzo's fault 100%.

[Crasherfromwayback]

[

Yip, def got a nose well in front there aye

Reckon. If Lorenzo hadn't seen him there...he wants his eyes tested. I think it was simply a case of "oh fuck...he's there...best I try and shut the door anyway!" MM saw the impact coming and braced himself by picking it up a tad maybe...but fair enough if someone is going to come on in on top of you from behind as Lorenzo did.

[codgyoleracer]

Reckon. If Lorenzo hadn't seen him there...he wants his eyes tested. I think it was simply a case of "oh fuck...he's there...best I try and shut the door anyway!" MM saw the impact coming and braced himself by picking it up a tad maybe...but fair enough if someone is going to come on in on top of you from behind as Lorenzo did.

Yep, none of the guys that get to that level are softies when it comes to 'limiting the other riders options" shall we say.........

[Drew]

As always the onus is on the passing party to do so safely.

Was it done safely?

No one crashed, can't have been that dangerous.

[Brett]

Loved the few times there was footage of Pedrosa — he’s just so... fast!

And consistent...one of the most under-rated racers given his talent IMO. A little boring to watch (sort of like JL) because they are just so smooth and consistent wacking out lap after lap.

[Brett]

He was looking really good! Be fucking awesome if all three of them are this close all season eh! Where's that chap from earlier in this thread that was saying Rossi would waste Lorenzo *again*? It would seem to me that the goal posts have moved a tad since Rossi was *the man*. No matter how good you are...it's only ever a matter of time till someone better comes along.

I will be a die-hard Rossi fan boy until he retires, but I suspect that we have seen the end of his era. He has some stiff new talented young racers in the mix who are not going to give any quarter. MM (if he can keep a cool head and race sensibly) is going to be a force to be reckoned with for some time. That said...it would be interesting to get an understanding of how much is MM and how much is the Honda.

[Brett]

Now, that IS a thought. Doubt that Suzuki are funded enough to even tempt him though

I should really Multi-quote.....

I don't think that he can be tempted back by money. He has made several comments in interviews in the past couple of weeks (in the forum of his V8 racing) about being so happy to be away from MotoGP, although he misses the bikes...but that is absolutely all. Also...have to wonder if Suzuki could develop a competitive bike .

[Crasherfromwayback]

That said...it would be interesting to get an understanding of how much is MM and how much is the Honda.

The best guys at the height of their powers win on anything. Eg: Rossi on the Yam early on, Stoner on the Ducati etc etc. There'll be tracks that'll suit the Yam better again no doubt. It's funny...they (Yam) went 1-2 at round one...and just because Honda have done the same at rounds 2 & 3 all of a sudden the Yam is a pill of poo and not competitive. Both Lornezo and Rossi have made mention that it's not competitive with the Honda? I say bullshit.

[pritch]

Both Lornezo and Rossi have made mention that it's not competitive with the Honda? I say bullshit.

I dunno.

I think a lot of what went on at Jerez was to do with tyres and the track temperatures. Lorenzo had a go at Bridgestone as did another rider - may have been Crutchlow? They were unhappy with the available tyres.

Rossi didn't whinge particularly but said that tyres would decide the outcome of the race. On the Yamaha the hard tyres had insufficient grip, the soft tyres had grip but wouldn't last.

In the winter test the Yamahas topped the timesheets, but it was colder then. Normally I'd have thunk cold track meant less grip, but in Jerez this weekend the track temps in the morning were relatively cold but later in the day were 40c or more. The commentator mentioned a theory that said the higher temps bought oil to the surface of the seal. Didn't seem to bother Pedro much in the race, but the weekend was a real crash fest. Riders including Pedro going down at frequent intervals in all classes.

It's all a bit of a puzzle really, but we may get more clues at Le Mans?

A Spanish magazine reported that Yamaha had a seamless gearbox but David Emmett did some ace detective work and looks to have proved that Yamaha do not yet have the new gearbox. Which would appear to be a disadvantage.

Crutchlow again reports no new parts, just going round and round during Mondays test. But then he was going quite quick.

[Drew]

Oil to the surface of the track? That's not something I've heard of before.