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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I really don't think it will.

    The shit all over the net is all heavily one eyed, and the sheer volume of said shit makes it impossible to find all the facts.

    I am not ignoring anything, I just accept I will never know for sure, and have enough to worry about with out losing sleep over the implications of what you're saying.
    Enough clearly provable facts have been shown to discredit the conspiracy theories. Now they are clutching at silly straws in a pathetic attempt to justify their dogged ignorance.

    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    Looks like you achieved your aim Drew.


    Actually why hasn't this been consigned to PD. It has become just as pointless, if not more so, than the religious arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Enough clearly provable facts have been shown to discredit the conspiracy theories. Now they are clutching at silly straws in a pathetic attempt to justify their dogged ignorance.
    Why did NIST try to cover up the fact that Building 7 fell at freefall speed Ed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Why did NIST try to cover up the fact that Building 7 fell at freefall speed Ed?
    Bollocks! You have been shown enough evidence in this thread to prove how building 7 came down but as usual with you you simply dismiss anything actually proven and cling desperately to your idiotic conspiracy agenda. As I have often said and been proven right, conspiracy theorists will never accept any facts contrary to their theories. You are a copmplete waste of time and space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Bollocks! You have been shown enough evidence in this thread to prove how building 7 came down but as usual with you you simply dismiss anything actually proven and cling desperately to your idiotic conspiracy agenda. As I have often said and been proven right, conspiracy theorists will never accept any facts contrary to their theories. You are a copmplete waste of time and space.
    Bollocks to what Ed?

    Bollocks that the building fell at freefall speed or bollocks that NIST tried to cover that fact up?

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    Read my lips! THERE WERE NO EXPLOSIVES USED IN ANY OF THE BUILDINGS! FACT! PROVEN! BEYOND QUESTION!


    THE PLANES THAT HIT THE TOWERS WERE 767'S, AND THE ONE THAT HIT THE PENTAGON WAS A 757 NOT A MISSILE AS SOME SO-CALLED EXPERTS HAVE TESTIFIED! PROVEN! FACT!

    As with your silly Boston Bombing thread, IT WAS CAUSED BY TWO BOMBS PLACED BY THE TWO IDENTIFIED CAUSING THREE DEATHS AND MULTIPLE INJURIES! IT WAS NOT A GOVT. SPONSORED ACT!

    As I said, enough facts are proven to show your conspiracies to be utter bunkum!

    But of course you will never admith to being wrong about these two events, or pretty much anything else you have a bee in your bonnet about, will you?
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    If the plane had been fueled with thermite, would there have been enough to do the damage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Read my lips! THERE WERE NO EXPLOSIVES USED IN ANY OF THE BUILDINGS! FACT! PROVEN! BEYOND QUESTION!


    THE PLANES THAT HIT THE TOWERS WERE 767'S, AND THE ONE THAT HIT THE PENTAGON WAS A 757 NOT A MISSILE AS SOME SO-CALLED EXPERTS HAVE TESTIFIED! PROVEN! FACT!

    As with your silly Boston Bombing thread, IT WAS CAUSED BY TWO BOMBS PLACED BY THE TWO IDENTIFIED CAUSING THREE DEATHS AND MULTIPLE INJURIES! IT WAS NOT A GOVT. SPONSORED ACT!

    As I said, enough facts are proven to show your conspiracies to be utter bunkum!

    But of course you will never admith to being wrong about these two events, or pretty much anything else you have a bee in your bonnet about, will you?
    Why won't you answer the question Ed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Why did NIST try to cover up the fact that Building 7 fell at freefall speed Ed?
    Huh ?? What ??? My understanding of the laws of Gravity is that everything falls at freefall speed ... that's the definitinon of freefall speed ..

    The only exceptions are where it is affected by the air - such as a feather falling ...

    But a building is too heavy for that - of course it's going to fal at freefall speed ...

    (Oh shit .. I wasn't going to get sucked into this debate again ...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Huh ?? What ??? My understanding of the laws of Gravity is that everything falls at freefall speed ... that's the definitinon of freefall speed ..

    The only exceptions are where it is affected by the air - such as a feather falling ...

    But a building is too heavy for that - of course it's going to fal at freefall speed ...

    (Oh shit .. I wasn't going to get sucked into this debate again ...)
    Freefall speed only occurs when there is no resistance to the downward motion.

    For example, a building that pancakes down upon itself one floor at a time will most certainly not fall at freefall speed.

    So why did NIST initially try to claim that Building 7 fell at about 40% slower than freefall speed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Freefall speed only occurs when there is no resistance to the downward motion.

    A building that pancakes down upon itself one floor at a time will most certainly not fall at freefall speed.

    So why did NIST initially try to claim that Building 7 fell at about 40% slower than freefall speed?
    So hang on .. what you are suggesting is that a building will never fall at freefall speeds ... but you are saying that Building 7 did fall at freefall speeds ..

    What you are suggesting is an impossibility - whether it was casued by deliberately planted exploasives or damaged caused by the neighboring building falling ... it's an impossibility ...

    There's something screwy in your reasoning here ... (and all over the place .. but let's just deal with here right now ...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Why won't you answer the question Ed?
    What part of, "There were no explosives" don't you understand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    So hang on .. what you are suggesting is that a building will never fall at freefall speeds ... but you are saying that Building 7 did fall at freefall speeds ..

    What you are suggesting is an impossibility - whether it was casued by deliberately planted exploasives or damaged caused by the neighboring building falling ... it's an impossibility ...

    There's something screwy in your reasoning here ... (and all over the place .. but let's just deal with here right now ...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    So hang on .. what you are suggesting is that a building will never fall at freefall speeds ... but you are saying that Building 7 did fall at freefall speeds ..
    I'm not saying that at all.

    If you simultaneously remove/sever every supporting column across the floor area and over several levels, then that building is most certainly going to fall at almost exactly freefall speed.

    That's precisely what demolition experts try to achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    What part of, "There were no explosives" don't you understand?
    Why won't you answer the question Ed?

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    Is the question too hard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Is the question too hard?
    The question is stupid of course. If no explosives were used it matters not how fast the building fell. Anyone can watch the building fall on several available vidoes and see for themselves how fast it fell down.

    You should know by now, (among a host of other things...), that even eyewitnesses often disagree on events and reports change as more information comes to light. There is no evidence of any deliberate cover ups by any agencies. Only questions from conspiracy theorists who blithely ignore the actual facts as you do.

    Nuff said!
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