oh by the way http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=602494574Originally Posted by Paul in NZ
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oh by the way http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/List...x?id=602494574
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Yeah thanks for that but I think we covered that in Bossladies thread about this exact bag..... Undoing the whole thing everytime I need gas might get timesome and I doubt it would fir the slightly odd ST tank
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Oi! I heard that!
Actually the issue with the 1050's came to light a couple of years ago and was resolved by simply upping the battery size. For some reason, and the Rocket 3's are especially sensitive to this, Triumphs seem to need the battery to be at max charge at first start. The Shorai charger when used as a tender, maintains the battery at 80% which for most engines is more than enough to start but Triumphs have some kind of system we have yet to sort, that won't work if the battery is 10 - 15% down. So your advice on that is spot on.
It was a Rocket owner in Invers that found this out via his auto electrician, an expert on Triumphs, so he's swapped to a 36A and is going to get back to me about his results. For the 1050, the original recommendation was a 14A but now an 18A is the recommended size.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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Is this the same motor as the speed nipple of the same year? Fuck it is a great motor for sure! Doesn't have quite the same flexibility as the early gixxer thou motor. I still don't think anything compares to that. But I doubt anything can given the way manufacturers 'focus' these days.
Hmmm, so your batteries rely on a certain draw before they build up a charge? That's why we don't run the lithium battery in the sidecar. ZX14 doesn't like it at all.Oi! I heard that!
Actually the issue with the 1050's came to light a couple of years ago and was resolved by simply upping the battery size. For some reason, and the Rocket 3's are especially sensitive to this, Triumphs seem to need the battery to be at max charge at first start. The Shorai charger when used as a tender, maintains the battery at 80% which for most engines is more than enough to start but Triumphs have some kind of system we have yet to sort, that won't work if the battery is 10 - 15% down. So your advice on that is spot on.
It was a Rocket owner in Invers that found this out via his auto electrician, an expert on Triumphs, so he's swapped to a 36A and is going to get back to me about his results. For the 1050, the original recommendation was a 14A but now an 18A is the recommended size.
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Only on Triumphs for some reason to do with their starting system. The Kwaka should be fine as most others are. What have you tried in it? The recommendation is the 21A which, incidentally, is what I am using in our MX5. Weighs 1.3kg.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Ta
One we have is undoubtedly too small then. Dunno how many amps it is, but there's not the slightest chance it'd start a car!
For the money, we don't see it as a priority to run a Lithium battery. I'm not too barred up at the however small chance, of the thing exploding whilst sitting right next to our fuel tank either.
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Yeah, the 21 would kick it over fast!
They don't explode and are the safest battery you can use in racing. They are Lithium Iron Phosphate, not Lithium Ion as are your cell phone batteries, etc. Your lead acid would be dangerous beside your fuel tank as they emit gasses. Especially in an accident if the battery is damaged, you can almost guarantee a fire. For cars they don't require the sealed battery box that all other batteries do and can be mounted anywhere convenient. So they are really taking off in racing for not only their size and weight but for their inherent safety. You'd save about 5kg over an equivalent lead acid.
Last edited by Edbear; 11th June 2013 at 09:09. Reason: Extra info
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Ta
Interesting.
We're going a long way off topic here. I simply cannot justify the price of one of your batteries, for so little gain. When we're running front-ish of the pack, and need every scrap of gain we can get to win it might get bumped up the priority list. But for now we'll carry on with what we have.
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Cool mate! You know your budget and if you're winning with what you have I can't criticise.
I admit it is the safety aspect that is getting the attention of the car racers mainly, but the size and weight is what attracts the superbikes and really all the bike racers as kilos lost directly equate to hp gained.
But yes, we are off topic a bit...
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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No no, when we are running at the front. As in, some time in the future. Not, don't need it because we are running at the front of the pack.
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Ah okay, maybe I was being prophetic...
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
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No need to use me to hijack another thread and push your batteries Ed.Oi! I heard that!
Nunquam Non Paratus
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I know, but I felt your point needed clarifying regards the issues the 1050 had with LiFePO4 otherwise you might have put people off the tech when it is explainable. Also your comment re: not trying to start on a battery less than fully charged is correct for most Triumph models but I can explain why that is rather than it being a mystery.No need to use me to hijack another thread and push your batteries Ed.
The fact that Drew asked further questions meant it was courteous to answer them too. Unlike some other times when I have cheekily promoted the Shorai brand this was more to do with technical information that would be valuable to know.
I don't rely at all on KB to sell or promote as that would hardly make any difference to my business anyway. I have a sense of humour that everyone should pick up on and I enjoy banter. Didn't mean to hijack the thread.
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Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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Now that the side car battery question is settled lets press on...
The hot grips are fitted. This is a genuine first for me but thus far they seem like a bloodly good idea, especially considering that the first big test will be riding down to Christchurch weekend of 12th July for the TOMCC 20th anniversary get together.
http://tomcc.co.nz/20th-anniversary-...ns-invitation/
We will head down mid week to catch up with family but ChCh in July? Sheesh!
I am still working on a tank bag solution. The factory set up is a full cover with bag on top. I can get the cover but not the bag but surely if I can actually get the cover I can adapt a bag to it… Anyway – it’s a work in progress.
We decided to travel down a little differently this time. Rather than the usual 8am sailing we are opting for a Bluebridge crossing at 2:30 am. We have booked a cabin and apparently we can rock up at 10pm the night before and load the bike and grab some shuteye in the cabin. Turn up in Picton 6:30 or so and ride off with the whole day ahead of us. 1st stop will be breakfast some place and then away.
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Seems a very efficient and a little more civilised than 2 30 am routine
RE the heated grips they make a big difference theu more than just hand warmers
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