David Bain vs The Crown - game over

[Katman]

Also in response to a previous poster, he was not found not guilty, only that the Prosecution failed to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt.

Actually, I think he was.

I think that's what...."How do you find?" "Not Guilty".....means.

Dumbarse.

[Bald Eagle]

I have always thought that David Bain Murdered his Family. But after watching third degree last night I find myself reluctantly thinking that David is innocent of killing his family.

There is the power of the media in action. Never forget the Justice system isnt about what happened, its about what can be proven, until the media says otherwise.

[neels]

There is the power of the media in action. Never forget the Justice system isnt about what happened, its about what can be proven, until the media says otherwise.

"This isn't a court of justice son, this is a court of law"

[Akzle]

That makes sense as any gun owner regularly cleans their weapon after use.

Actually. The uncle has a 22 he bought second hand (at a police auction ) in '78.
The only thing close to maintenance is a bit of engine oil on the bolt when it stops working...
Its not a weapon. Its a tool. Like

[neels]

Actually. The uncle has a 22 he bought second hand (at a police auction ) in '78.
The only thing close to maintenance is a bit of engine oil on the bolt when it stops working...
Its not a weapon. Its a tool. Like

True dat.

Should clean my ruger after sticking a couple of hundred rounds through it at the easter bunny hunt, but I've been told that the only maintenance that should be done is to wash the moving parts in petrol if it gets really dirty and put it back together dry.

And that it's a tool.

[mansell]

There is the power of the media in action. Never forget the Justice system isnt about what happened, its about what can be proven, until the media says otherwise.

I agree here, this is bloody proof that our media is dictating how we think. A couple of reminders, firstly the police persued the murder suicide theory but struggled getting the evidence to show this, and secondly (and my personal favourite) Robin Bain hadf a full bladder when he died, I dont know about you young chaps but the first thing I do every morning is have a piss and that is not a conscious choice but ingrained through the years. So here is a 50 something man getting out of bed and deciding to shoot his entire family, but he doesn't piss first. This just doesn't do it for me. BTW if Robin was so keen to leave only one family member alive why did he then go to the hassle of setting up so much evidence against him.
I still firmly believe that David is guilty and feel sorry for the memory of Robin Bain, he hasn't had the chance to keep shouting his innocence until people believe him.

[Katman]

Obvious answer is that it would have had his prints on it... Basic.

Really?

I thought the issue of the validity of prints being presented as evidence had already been mentioned in this thread.

Were there any prints on the magazine?

[Indoo]

Could it not have been placed there by Robin Bain before he shot himself?

Which relies on the equally improbable scenario of his body after death landing in such a position so as not only avoid knocking over the magazine but so that his fingertips are within millimeters of touching it.

[Madness]

Robin Bain hadf a full bladder when he died, I dont know about you young chaps but the first thing I do every morning is have a piss and that is not a conscious choice but ingrained through the years. So here is a 50 something man getting out of bed and deciding to shoot his entire family, but he doesn't piss first. This just doesn't do it for me.

You're suggesting a scenario where Robin Bain had a good nights sleep, woke up early & decided on the spot to murder his family? Alternatively, if he had pre-meditated the murders, are you suggesting he had a good nights sleep then woke up and went straight to work knocking them off? This just doesn't do it for me. I believe there's more chance of him being up all night, waiting for David to go off on his paper round. He probably drank coffee or tea all night and when the time came, taking a piss was the last thing on his mind.

David may or may not have committed the crimes - we don't know. What we do know is the popo royally fucked up the investigation leading to the current situation yet nobody is being held accountable for this. This should come as no surprise as it's par for the course when it comes to the N.Z Police.

[Katman]

Which relies on the equally improbable scenario of his body after death landing in such a position so as not only avoid knocking over the magazine but so that his fingertips are within millimeters of touching it.

Maybe he was sitting on the floor next to the magazine when he shot himself.

[BMWST?]

Scratches would still be there when the coroner examined the body. They were gone by the time the body was examined. The inability to preserve evidence was a serious lapse in the investigation.

It has been proven in court that he could have fired the shot that killed him. It is physically possible.

Also, having cleaned the blood off of a rifle used in a suicide (headshot) of that same type of gun, it is 100% positive that it can be done.

what/\? who cleaned the gun then?Robin wouldnt have bothered would he?Why would he clean the gun before using it on himself?

[oneofsix]

Scratches would still be there when the coroner examined the body. They were gone by the time the body was examined. The inability to preserve evidence was a serious lapse in the investigation.

It has been proven in court that he could have fired the shot that killed him. It is physically possible.

Also, having cleaned the blood off of a rifle used in a suicide (headshot) of that same type of gun, it is 100% positive that it can be done.

what/\? who cleaned the gun then?Robin wouldnt have bothered would he?Why would he clean the gun before using it on himself?

classic kb twisting of what was meant.

[Mom]

If Robin killed his family, who killed Robin?

I really struggle to accept that David Bain did not kill a single member of his family.

No compensation for David vote from me.

[Madness]

If Robin killed his family, who killed Robin?

Maha really is the brains in your house eh?

[Katman]

If Robin killed his family, who killed Robin?

You and Mark really are a perfect match.