David Bain vs The Crown - game over

[Coldrider]

Not that time, we didn't really start using them as aprofession until about 10 years ago, and most of the older teachers didn't even know how to turn them on. As little as five years ago most schoolteachers were still hand writing reports. Teaching as a profession was one of the last to embrace ICT

How many households had a PC in 94, would have been a 286 xt/at costings er $4k approx, lot of money back then not to be used. Teachers maybe, just look at novapay, but intelligent individuals were right into it. (not debating robin vs david, just debating the point which is not fact).

[mansell]

How many households had a PC in 94, would have been a 286 xt/at costings er $4k approx, lot of money back then not to be used. Teachers maybe, just look at novapay, but intelligent individuals were right into it. (not debating robin vs david, just debating the point which is not fact).

I began my working life as an industrial chemist and have been exposed to computers since my late teens but even after I obtained a household PC (late in the nineties) would still use a pen and paper for most of the writing I did. I have been teaching for quite a few years and still use pen and paper like a large number of my colleagues who are over forty. The point I was trying to make was just because Robin was a teacher doesn't mean he would use a computer to leave a message.

[fridayflash]

has anybody here read both 'the mask of sanity' by james mcneish and 'david and goliath' by joe karam?
i have, one was a well researched piece by an acclaimed investigative journolist who was sat through the
original trial from day one, the other was a weak fluff piece which ignored all strong evidence.
ive followed the case in more recent years too and firmly believe DB is guilty.
the new evidence is interesting but not convincing..i noticed the bloke with the vernier showed that the
width of the marks (17.5mm?) or so matched only against the wider portion of the case which has
a round 'rolled' profile which wouldnt leave tidy straight lines as on robins thumb..the more
narrow inner edges of the case would leave a tidy edge like that..but then are much narrower
than the 17.5 mm pair show.
if they were a closer match, id be wondering if david put that mag in his dads hand?
the large stack of evidence against david since the outset is still thoroughly relevent
as in post #41 and david bain is a mass muderer
if he is ever proved 'innocent beyond reasonable doubt' ill eat my hat

[scumdog]

You and scumdog would make a wonderful couple.

You stick to shit you know - like telling people how to avoud crashing their motorcycles.

And leave it to Indoo and I to decide if we would make a wonderful couple...

Anyhoo "This thread is funny" (said in a Ralph Wiggins voice)

[scissorhands]

Its those jumpers he wore and those big ears wasnt it?
I can understand bias based on his image, how could he not be guilty?

[oldrider]

has anybody here read both 'the mask of sanity' by james mcneish and 'david and goliath' by joe karam?
i have, one was a well researched piece by an acclaimed investigative journolist who was sat through the
original trial from day one, the other was a weak fluff piece which ignored all strong evidence.
ive followed the case in more recent years too and firmly believe DB is guilty.
the new evidence is interesting but not convincing..i noticed the bloke with the vernier showed that the
width of the marks (17.5mm?) or so matched only against the wider portion of the case which has
a round 'rolled' profile which wouldnt leave tidy straight lines as on robins thumb..the more
narrow inner edges of the case would leave a tidy edge like that..but then are much narrower
than the 17.5 mm pair show.
if they were a closer match, id be wondering if david put that mag in his dads hand?
the large stack of evidence against david since the outset is still thoroughly relevent
as in post #41 and david bain is a mass muderer
if he is ever proved 'innocent beyond reasonable doubt' ill eat my hat

I get the same lines on my thumbs when I work in my shed or do gardening and like Robin Bain mine are not really parallel either.

Just because you want something to be true it does not mean that it is!

There are still five unaccounted murders to be solved and while David Bain can not be proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt, neither can he be proved innocent!

I for one do not want tax payers money shelved out in compensation, I am however marginally satisfied that he is free!

Only David Bain knows the truth .... scary isn't it!

[scumdog]

A quote from a juror at the DB retrial:

"There's been a lot of speculation that it means that he was found innocent. And I was a juror and I never found David Bain innocent," she said.

She pointed out that the jury was never asked to find Bain innocent, but whether or not the prosecution proved the case beyond reasonable doubt.

"And that they did not do," she said.

[Drew]

Anyhoo "This thread is funny" (said in a Ralph Wiggins voice)

Wiggum.

A quote from a juror at the DB retrial:

"There's been a lot of speculation that it means that he was found innocent. And I was a juror and I never found David Bain innocent," she said.

She pointed out that the jury was never asked to find Bain innocent, but whether or not the prosecution proved the case beyond reasonable doubt.

"And that they did not do," she said.

I'm shocked that a juror said that frankly. It sounds like she actually understood the brief, and did what she was meant to!

[unstuck]

[scissorhands]

Davids astrology suggests a devious power and money hungry taker, without thinking of others welfare
Numerology also reinforces a trend toward power and aggressive personal gain

Oh well, I guess the country will remain divided thanks to all this

[Katman]

I think this quote from Justice Binnie's report sums it up nicely.

"The diversity of the conflicting opinions in this case is exceeded only by the confidence with which each conflicting opinion is advanced".

[scumdog]

As an 'experiment a mate and I loaded a 22 mag a couple of times, just the way we usually do - we did not get 'Robin Bain marks' - mainly because we discovered we were pushing the bullets into the mag with our thumbs pointing in the same direction as we were loading the bullets.

Pushing them in to try and replicate the RB marks was downright awkward

[Edbear]

As an 'experiment a mate and I loaded a 22 mag a couple of times, just the way we usually do - we did not get 'Robin Bain marks' - mainly because we discovered we were pushing the bullets into the mag with our thumbs pointing in the same direction as we were loading the bullets.

Pushing them in to try and replicate the RB marks was downright awkward

I was going to quit the thread and still will, but your comment recalls one of the so-called proof pics that actually showed the marks along the thumb, not across it as with Robin's.

[BMWST?]

Go read the post again. You are mis-reading it.



As for cleaning the Bain's gun. It certainly looked as if it needs it and also the attention of a qualified gunsmith. Talk about a "jam-O-matic".

Yes i see that now should read more before posting

sent from the tag

[Katman]

I was going to quit the thread and still will, but your comment recalls one of the so-called proof pics that actually showed the marks along the thumb, not across it as with Robin's.

Is there only one way to load a magazine?