A new brand of chinese "sports bikes"?

[Katman]

Ummm, brake pads for lots of cars and bikes are full of the stuff....Even ones that don't come from China.

Not for a long time Drew.

[Woodman]

Not for a long time Drew.

About a decade ago, aftermarket pads were not allowed into NZ. There may still be some old stock floating around though. If these bikes do have asbestos pads then they should not have got in.

But meh....

[caspernz]

Anyone dumb enough to want to buy such low quality stuff...should be allowed to

[russd7]

its a bit like those cheap chinese kids bikes the whare house had, to many dumbasses out there still bought them, the lucky ones had the motor crap out before they started falling apart

[speights_bud]

Tell them what you think:

https://www.facebook.com/TwoWheelsLtd


I'm not sure how anyone else feels but this really grinds my gears! currently finding who is allowing these to be registered, they also say LAMS compliant which is interesting.

[EJK]

Good luck.

[mossy1200]

guess new cheap crap 250s keep the price of old worn out thrashed 250s down.

[ducatilover]

Fools and their money........

I'm broke

About a decade ago, aftermarket pads were not allowed into NZ. There may still be some old stock floating around though. If these bikes do have asbestos pads then they should not have got in.

But meh....

Great Wall utes have asbestos in the exhaust manifold gaskets, AFAIK there hasn't been a recall for them in NZ yet (because our gubbermunt sucks a shit load of yellow wang)



Some of the parts on them Chinese bikes are well made and/or under licence, but some aren't.
They've been selling similar shit in their own country for years

[MarkH]

I have nothing against Chinese people, the country or the companies making products, however:
I would rather spend the same amount of money on a 2nd hand Japanese bike (Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha or Kawasaki).

Reasons:
Build quality
Established distribution chain & parts supply
My trust in the product
etc.

For what these new Chinese bikes cost I was able to buy a 15 year old Suzuki RF900R.
My bike is probably more reliable despite the age & mileage.
Mine would out perform these Chinese bikes by a large margin too.
I have more faith in being able to get parts for my RF, a LOT more faith!

Check out these pics of the dash - one's from a cbr250r, one's from the "himalaya" version from these guys.

How do they get away with this stuff?

Rest of the world: "that is the same as the Honda"
China: "no it's not"

Of course it is possible that they have licensed stuff from Honda, more likely though that they just copied it.

[The Reibz]

After buying 3 Chinese welders I have no faith that anything from China can be used directly out of the box without any problems. I have just tested my latest one for around 3 hours and found that the foot pedal is well and truely fucked, lucky I brought it from a respected retail shop which should replace it no issues. Stay well clear of chinese products on trademe. Most are being sold by fuckwits who have no idea what they are actually selling and offer zero support after the sale.

These clown shoe cunts likely fall into that Category. You would have more luck getting a barstool racer registered for the road than getting one of these things to pass its first WOF. Whats even more fucked is the WOF standards have changed meaning that owners of these bikes will not have to get them seen by a mechanic for around 3 years. My advice would be to stay well fucking clear of courier vans for the foreseeable future because there is no way half those cunts will be forking out for new tires/pads/fluids and they drive for like 100k+ per year.

Alot of the ali parts on these bikes look very weak. I would stay well clear of them

[ducatilover]

After buying 3 Chinese welders I have no faith that anything from China can be used directly out of the box without any problems.

I've had three Kawasakis that have broken, two Suzukis that have been shit and all my Hondas were great, so by your logic anything made by anyone but Honda is shit and everyone should buy Hondas.


Got a torch for this tunnel?

[MarkH]

I would like to point out that there are many good products manufactured in China - them Apple fanbois rave about the quality of their iProducts.

I have some good quality LED torches from brands like Jetbeam, Olight, Fenix, Nitecore & Zebralight - guess where these top brands come from?
None of these are cheap brands and they are all very reliable.

But there are many products where the manufacturers strive day & night to make their products cheaper - no corner left uncut!
Consequently there are many cheap & shitty product that are not worth their low prices.

Am I willing to ride at 100kph on a Chinese motorcycle while hoping that it is well made?
Nope!

Do I trust that the parts will be available for over a decade?
Nope!

There are Japanese motorcycles on NZ roads that are well over a decade old and many with over 100,000 kms of distance travelled that are still running great!
There are NOT Chinese motorcycles in this countries that have the same clear evidence of quality & reliability.
I would not hesitate to recommend that a biker take that $5k and spend it on a second hand Japanese bike instead of a brand new Chinese bike.

[ducatilover]

Do I trust that the parts will be available for over a decade?
Nope!

why not? They make more of those silly little bikes tha any Jappa you'll buy. And their markets are absolutely massive, NZ market means nothing on a global scale.

There are Japanese motorcycles on NZ roads that are well over a decade old and many with over 100,000 kms of distance travelled that are still running great!
There are NOT Chinese motorcycles in this countries that have the same clear evidence of quality & reliability.
I would not hesitate to recommend that a biker take that $5k and spend it on a second hand Japanese bike instead of a brand new Chinese bike.

That's because currently the Chinese bikes sold here are the cheaper ones, and small bikes, most smaller bikes don't do anywhere near 100,000km anyway.
How many 250cc singles are there in the last 5 years from Japan that have travelled that far yet? None that I've known.

I'm not saying they're good bikes, just saying you should compare apples to apples, I worked on a Hudson with 600,000 miles once and it was a 1934, that means anything not from America is shit and cannot be trusted?



I love KB, the epitome of wild speculation.

[unstuck]

everyone should buy Hondas.

Most sensible think I have read on KB yet.
A guy I know bought a chinese jet ski a couple of months ago for $6500 and has had 3/4 hrs use out of it and has cost him another $1300 to keep fixing it, and now he has hooked up the battery the wrong way round and fried all the electronics. Stupid shearers.

[ducatilover]

Most sensible think I have read on KB yet.
A guy I know bought a chinese jet ski a couple of months ago for $6500 and has had 3/4 hrs use out of it and has cost him another $1300 to keep fixing it, and now he has hooked up the battery the wrong way round and fried all the electronics. Stupid shearers.

I know a girl who is a shearer, she knocked her now Ex partner out Top girl that one.