A new brand of chinese "sports bikes"?

[avgas]

True dat, just make sure you put the brakes on first or you might break it.

Only break I had what when after a break, after the brakes didn't kick in, in time.

[avgas]

Reading this thread. I can't help but feel that Kiwibikers have turned into a bunch of pussies.
Looking back at past bikes;

- Some had shoddy brakes
- Some had shoddy tires
- Some had cracked welds
- Some were deformed
- Clutch cables broke
- Gear levers bent
- Low-sided crawlers
- Intake issues
- dangerous at high-speed
- Headset bearings shot
- Wheel bearings shot
- Chain loose
- Sprockets shot
- Brakes not bled
- Brakes always bleeding
- bits broken off leaving nasty catch points
- Lights that failed......

and truck loads more.

But you know what - I had such a grand time with these buckets / POS / Rolling wrecks that it taught me how to ride with known problems.

So put down the hi-viz, think about the pile of shit you learnt to ride on - and those key skills you learnt because it was a pile of shit.

Otherwise give up you bike, buy a volvo and become your dad.

[Drew]

Most people probably think I'm being an ass.

Me second invite, following you're continued and completely ignorant public slamming of the bikes I was importing, would be to get you into the shop in order to kick your face in...

But that's just me.

[Mushu]

The only problem I have with the idea of these bikes is I can't find out who actually makes them, it is quite obviously not sven himself and I can't find any reference to them anywhere but this Christchurch based website, if they are a reasonable quality product then surely they are imported by other people than just this one guy and to other countries than NZ, there are a couple of Chinese manufacturers out there that with time and experience should be able to atleast equal the quality of hyosung like cfmoto and a few others that seem to be concentrating on the dirt/pit bike market.
But this manufacturer is doing nothing to build an international reputation.
I'm in no hurry to go buy a non Japanese motor vehicle but there are plenty out there that are, just look at all the Hyodungs getting around, and all the Korean cars out there, some people just have to have things new and don't look at the quality, it's fine by me, keeps the used bike prices down as far as I can tell.

[chasio]

So for $750 more I could buy a brand spanking new GW250. The mind boggles that anyone would buy one of these things.

[Yow Ling]

So for $750 more I could buy a brand spanking new GW250. The mind boggles that anyone would buy one of these things.

So where are these GW250's made? Indonesia, Thailand, malaysia, probably anywhere but Japan.
I think the decent thing to do here rather than sounding like Winston Peters at a grey power meeting would be give Sven and Matt a call and borrow a bike to do a few laps off the back of the 250 grid at levels in 2weeks.

some of you guys got onto a rely small perceived problem with the gear lever spline, anyone remember the vt250? safe enough but had a chocolate engine, we don't know if these are good or bad, give them a chance to build a reputation ,good or bad.

[huff3r]

So for $750 more I could buy a brand spanking new GW250. The mind boggles that anyone would buy one of these things.

Which is made in..... guess where?!

China

[Drew]

Which is made in..... guess where?!

China

I was gonna let it go for a little while, before I pointed that out fuck ya!

[Oakie]

Check it out. This, plus a bit of paperwork, is how easy it is to become a importer of Chinese motorcycles... . http://guoweimotor.en.made-in-china.com/

[st00ji]

china can produce quality, its like anywhere else - you get what you pay for.

its a shame they have to build such blatant rip offs / stomp all over IP though. not referring to this bike in particular, just talking in general

[Mushu]

Check it out. This, plus a bit of paperwork, is how easy it is to become a importer of Chinese motorcycles... . http://guoweimotor.en.made-in-china.com/

I want one of these, but with a bit more rake on the front and a taller sissy bar though. easy rider?

[Katman]

I was gonna let it go for a little while, before I pointed that out fuck ya!

There's a huge difference between products manufactured in China under strict quality controls imposed by the parent companies and products manufactured cheaply and distributed by Chinese companies though.

Shark helmets have a factory in China but would you wear a Chinese brand helmet that you'd never heard of before?

[Moi]

While not one of these dodgy little 250s, it seems China is starting to produce some quality bikes.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...tion-610491046. is the first Chinese big bike i've seen. It's a total copy of kawasakis ER6n, but by most accounts it's a fairly well built machine. And it costs as much as a hyodung 250.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/fi...k/viewall.html is an aussie article on it.

I've seen it in the flesh, and while it was only a quick peek, the thing looked OK. It looked fairly decent actually.

Personally, I welcome the chinese and hope they can introduce some QC into their goods. Bike prices here are stupid, and if the Chinese can eventually produce it similar quality for less, than I'm all for it.

*edit, spotted they have these too http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-591512345.htm . Lot of kit for the price. Not a bad looking tourer either.

Did you have a look at what else they are selling through the same showroom? all on the same corner site? Or for that matter on their TradeMe page?
Doubt if they'd want to be tarred with the "selling garbage" tar brush...

[ducatilover]

all the Korean cars out there, some people just have to have things new and don't look at the quality, it's fine by me, keeps the used bike prices down as far as I can tell.

Hyundai have been building excellent cars for some time now, I've had a lot of experience with them and they, for some time, made much better cars than the equivalent priced Jap car. Even Kia are building nicer stuff now.
Hyosung is a bit meh though, nothing wrong with them really, nothing special about them, which is exactly what they're designed to do.


I'm legally blind in one eye, yet have less one eyed vision than most of you latte drinking FIAT owners

[Katman]

Hyundai have been building excellent cars for some time now, I've had a lot of experience with them and they, for some time, made much better cars than the equivalent priced Jap car.

Do you remember what they were like in 1985?

(And besides, Hyundai are Korean).