A new brand of chinese "sports bikes"?

**ducatilover** · 2nd July 2013, 18:57

Originally Posted by Katman

Do you remember what they were like in 1985?

(And besides, Hyundai are Korean).

Mushu was the one bringing up Korean crap.

Yeah, I remember the old Highundies Pony... and Scoupe etc. Not all of them were that shit, but a fair few of them were (like Proton...). The only semi redeeming feature was their use of Mitsi motors, well, they're poo also.

And now look where they are

mmmm I'd happily rock this Chinese POS.. or anything they make, especially the ACE
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-608984699.htm

**nallac** · 2nd July 2013, 19:00

Originally Posted by Katman

Do you remember what they were like in 1985?

(And besides, Hyundai are Korean).

Utter crap......

**Katman** · 2nd July 2013, 19:25

Originally Posted by nallac

Utter crap......

Yes. At the time I was doing an apprenticeship at a Nissan dealer that was one of the first in the country to take on the Hyundai franchise.

Quite frankly, it was an embarrassment.

Having said that, Hyundai are now producing cars that are the equal of almost any other manufacturer.

Yes, some Chinese bike manufacturers will go on to produce high quality products but many others will fall by the wayside because they are only interested in quick profit from cheap crap.

We've yet to figure out which is which.

**scumdog** · 2nd July 2013, 19:51

Originally Posted by Katman

Yes, some Chinese bike manufacturers will go on to produce high quality products but MOST others will fall by the wayside because they are only interested in quick profit from cheap crap.

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Fixed

**Oakie** · 2nd July 2013, 20:30

Originally Posted by Katman

Do you remember what they were like in 1985?

(And besides, Hyundai are Korean).

Now oddly ... we bought my daughter a 1989(?) Hyundai Excel about 9 years ago and admittedly it was a piece of shit. But that piece of shit is still going ... used, abused, left in a paddock by it's new owner (our nephew) and that piece of shit is still going. What's my point? Errr, fecked if I know. I forgot now.

**avgas** · 2nd July 2013, 20:39

Originally Posted by Mushu

The only problem I have with the idea of these bikes is I can't find out who actually makes them, it is quite obviously not sven himself and I can't find any reference to them anywhere but this Christchurch based website, if they are a reasonable quality product then surely they are imported by other people than just this one guy and to other countries than NZ, there are a couple of Chinese manufacturers out there that with time and experience should be able to atleast equal the quality of hyosung like cfmoto and a few others that seem to be concentrating on the dirt/pit bike market.
But this manufacturer is doing nothing to build an international reputation.
I'm in no hurry to go buy a non Japanese motor vehicle but there are plenty out there that are, just look at all the Hyodungs getting around, and all the Korean cars out there, some people just have to have things new and don't look at the quality, it's fine by me, keeps the used bike prices down as far as I can tell.

Oh heaven forbid. Who cares where it is made. It has brakes, both front and rear. It has grip on the tyres - legal depth even.
Where was you bikes made? Japan? Really? All of them?

More importantly where is you Volvo?

Let people buy what they want. Stop being a combination of a boffin and a mother.

**ducatilover** · 2nd July 2013, 20:45

Originally Posted by avgas

More importantly where is you Volvo?

Mine was built in Belgium.

And that's probably worse than China. All they do is make shitty little chips there

**avgas** · 2nd July 2013, 21:05

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Mine was built in Belgium.
And that's probably worse than China. All they do is make shitty little chips there

Careful - or we will have those horrible Pommy Car Drivers association appearing.
Funny thing is you can still buy a chinese Buick or VW Santana..........but nothing updated from Morris since the Ambassador. Which never had brakes to start with.

**Flip** · 2nd July 2013, 21:21

Mr Pommy Car Driver here.

See it didn't take long. There is no jap crap in my garage. I dolike the new Hayobang 35 thing, looks like a nice wee 4WD car.

**Tagger** · 2nd July 2013, 21:26

Originally Posted by ducatilover

Mine was built in Belgium.

And that's probably worse than China.

excuse me ??? i'll have you know that i have worked in that particular plant and build quality is one of their biggest priorities ...

**Erelyes** · 2nd July 2013, 21:27

Those CFmoto bikes look good. The main thing putting me off is the fact they're copies.

Now all they need to do is make a ~400cc triple that makes a shade under the 150kw/tonne LAMS limit, and utilises good ideas without copying other bikes directly....