A new brand of chinese "sports bikes"?

[tigertim20]

Er, well... even Corollas are 4-5 years between models. I'd say they need a few month's of productions, tops, to suit spare parts (depending on the particular bit).

AFAIK after that they then store all the tooling and bring something out once in a blue moon when they run out of, er, 'alternator bracket' spares. Which are readily available from wreckers anyways, so are rarely bought new.

So, really, WHY design tooling to last 50 years when the design will be obsolete long before.... just makes the end product cost more anyhoo, doesn't it?



Don't buy Chinese big black rubber dildos, guys. No good. DAMHIK

needs to be enough spares to cover things like warranty repairs, which could be anything from a whole engine to a frame, to a loom . . . ..

Then theres insurance repairs which usually use brand new OEM bits. I did some a few years back on a 10 year old bike at the time. We used all OEM parts to fix that, had to wait 6 weeks for sipping from Japan though . . .

then there are the guys who are so anal about their bikes they refuse to replace worn out/damaged/failing bits wit anyting other tan OEM so as to maintain originality.

I dont think it would be particularly uncommon for 10 year old stuff to get fixed using original parts

[Erelyes]

I dont think it would be particularly uncommon for 10 year old stuff to get fixed using original parts

True; guess it'd depend on whether these Chinese bikes are good enough in other aspects to warrant fixing in 10 year's time.

Not every bike sold will need parts throughout it's life, either. Some just get ridden into the ground. Others get ridden - into the ground. They make parts to serve X% of the fleet, I guess.

I would think there will be parts still available in 5-10 year's time, judging by the number of bikes they sell there compared with here. But getting them ex China on the other hand might be harder than it is to get parts ex Japan!

[MarkH]

I wonder if there is a knife murder forum somewhere, where they proceed to tell us not to buy chinese steel as it would more difficult to kill someone with it.

A knife murder forum? That's being a little silly.
But of course there are knife forums where they proceed to tell you not to buy Chinese steel as it would be inferior in terms of 'edge holding' than the good quality (VG-10, S30V, CPM S35VN, etc) steels. If you don't know the difference between a Chinese knife stamped with "Stainless Steel" and a quality knife with a blade made of CPM M4 hardened to 64 on the Rockwell scale then you might be happy enough with the cheap Chinese product.
Porn for knife fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeP7HhHfgS0

There are plenty of different things that different people get fanatic over and I'm sure that there are a thousand and one different types of things where people are suggesting not to go with cheap Chinese products.

[Berries]

There are plenty of different things that different people get fanatic over and I'm sure that there are a thousand and one different types of things where people are suggesting not to go with cheap Chinese products.

But you have to weigh that against deep fried dog shit and stuffed intestine soaked in cow urine served with shaved sparrow eyeballs.


On a stick.

[actungbaby]

That's disgraceful. Even a (cheap) bucket has higher build quality than that!

Seriously speaking though, I assume it is the AA who should be contacted about such poor quality machinery being allowed to be registered on NZ roads?? These pieces of shit are an accident waiting to happen. As Riders we are not doing ourselves any favors by letting our new and inexperienced riders kill themselves on such poor machinery??

Is this not something an organization such as BRONZ or whoever we have as representatives to LTSA should be investigating?

seriously arent you getting tad emotinal .weld on gear lever please.

whould they get warrent if they where that bad . why whould somone but as

much money into slick web site . to be undone by the bikes themselves.

look fine to me

[AllanB]

It is sad that a 10 years old bike is now considered 'old'.

[actungbaby]

It is sad that a 10 years old bike is now considered 'old'.

not as old as you and me alan hehe we postively accent.. i suspect.

Mind you when was 19 i did wonder why 40 year olds didnt shoot themselves

Looked rather umm serious and stressfull lives know am dad and still wonder hehe

I know get my key buy ever pensioner a chinese motorbike presto . we can afford the super.

There eyesight think got roll royce of bikes . by the way bikes look fine to me..

Apprently we all rode rice burners and where not ture bikers funny that jap crap.

Know still going even 1970s models hmmmm harleys have what suspension.

Say it will be the same with chinese made . get grip chinese people been cooking working in nz

SInce 1800,s building are roads railways them and irish hard workers. but alot pansys of today

to shame . with face creams and waxing omg spare me ..

Iphones are best built in the world where foxcon factorys . hand finished cases.

paid crap money. know you genius want stop chinese company making probley paying there staff

alot better than apple .. shame on you. how do companys start from modest beginings

Improve with feedback postive. you always going on this to expesive blah blah what do you want ?

I have no time for wingers u want to improve something buy one and do it yourself.

seem such experts i expect you bikes be rolling of the factorys any time soon.

keep you prejuices to yourselfs looks rather telling am afraid .

[actungbaby]

But you have to weigh that against deep fried dog shit and stuffed intestine soaked in cow urine served with shaved sparrow eyeballs.

Ingorance is not bliss you proved that

On a stick.

oh am sorry you ihpone soaked in what all, computer compents made where ?

parts for you flash tvs hmmmmmm do you know..i do

[awa355]

Chinese versus the rest.

Now, if you were walking along Karangahape road and a kiwi girl stops you and says $100 for a jump sonny.

Then two Chinese girls come up and say Both of us for $100.

Which is going to give you the most 'bang' for your bucks.

Would you still pick Kiwi made ahead of cheap Chinese made?

[The Reibz]

Chinese versus the rest.

Now, if you were walking along Karangahape road and a kiwi girl stops you and says $100 for a jump sonny.

Then two Chinese girls come up and say Both of us for $100.

Which is going to give you the most 'bang' for your bucks.

Would you still pick Kiwi made ahead of cheap Chinese made?

Please do not compare motorcycles to whoring.

Im totally laughing though

[unstuck]

[Berries]

oh am sorry you ihpone soaked in what all, computer compents made where ?

Erm, I was sticking up for them.

I have no time for wingers.

Me neither.

I know get my key buy ever pensioner a chinese motorbike presto . we can afford the super.

You're not Chinese are you?

[Oakie]

not as old as you and me alan hehe we postively accent.. i suspect.
Mind you when was 19 i did wonder why 40 year olds didnt shoot themselves
Looked rather umm serious and stressfull lives know am dad and still wonder hehe
I know get my key buy ever pensioner a chinese motorbike presto . we can afford the super.
There eyesight think got roll royce of bikes . by the way bikes look fine to me..
Apprently we all rode rice burners and where not ture bikers funny that jap crap.
Know still going even 1970s models hmmmm harleys have what suspension.
Say it will be the same with chinese made . get grip chinese people been cooking working in nz
SInce 1800,s building are roads railways them and irish hard workers. but alot pansys of today
to shame . with face creams and waxing omg spare me ..
Iphones are best built in the world where foxcon factorys . hand finished cases.
paid crap money. know you genius want stop chinese company making probley paying there staff
alot better than apple .. shame on you. how do companys start from modest beginings
Improve with feedback postive. you always going on this to expesive blah blah what do you want ?
I have no time for wingers u want to improve something buy one and do it yourself.
seem such experts i expect you bikes be rolling of the factorys any time soon.
keep you prejuices to yourselfs looks rather telling am afraid .

Jeez I hope you were pissed when you wrote that! And just LOL at the last line and 'keep you prejuices to yourselfs'. I do try to keep 'em to myself dude!

Perhaps we should close KB at midnight?

[unstuck]

Jeez I hope you were pissed when you wrote that! And just LOL at the last line and 'keep you prejuices to yourselfs'. I do try to keep 'em to myself dude!

Perhaps we should close KB at midnight?

Im surprised you can understand anything the fella writes down.

[ducatilover]

Anyhoo.

Most of the motors you'll find in those bikes will be Japanese copies and most under licence/original tooling.
They've also been making them for a lot longer than 5 years and their parts supply is better than Japanese bikes usually are, due to the fucking massive market.


Really too much poorly educated speculative crap going on. What we'll see in NZ will be the smallest most pathetic dent on the Chinese market, they make such a massive amount of these things and the parts supply is insane, go price up a few Loncin parts? Who happen to still be making the GN250, for Spewzuki, amongst a few other people too.



Bunch of fucking wimmins.